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« on: February 03, 2021, 10:52:34 AM »

Could somebody please give a overview of how the electoral law works at the moment?

What exactly does it mean that Lega and FI are in coalition?  Do you vote for the CDX or for individual parties within the coalition?  How do coalitions work in single member seats?

I think I recall that Sardinian Action ran with Lega at the last election.  However they aren't part of the CDX per se?  How does that work?

Likewise Raffaele Fitto had his own party (Direction which had ties to the Tories) which was inside NcI which in turn was part of the CDX.  What was going on there?

Sorry - a lot of questions about the complex law!
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2021, 01:24:48 PM »

Could somebody please give a overview of how the electoral law works at the moment?

What exactly does it mean that Lega and FI are in coalition?  Do you vote for the CDX or for individual parties within the coalition?  How do coalitions work in single member seats?

I think I recall that Sardinian Action ran with Lega at the last election.  However they aren't part of the CDX per se?  How does that work?

Likewise Raffaele Fitto had his own party (Direction which had ties to the Tories) which was inside NcI which in turn was part of the CDX.  What was going on there?

Sorry - a lot of questions about the complex law!

Using the current electoral law:

1. You vote for a single list, and the vote is also transferred to the single-member constituency candidate put up by that list. Parties can form coalitions, which means that they all stand behind the same candidate in each constituency (though that candidate is officially affiliated to one of the lists that support him - or is an independent).

2. The Partito Sardo d'Azione (party) didn't run as an autonomous list in 2018, but ran some candidates inside the Lega lists. Lega in turn was one of the four lists inside the CDX coalition.

3. Likewise Fitto's party ran candidates inside the Noi con l'Italia lists. And NcI was one of the four lists inside the CDX coalition too.
Thanks for that!

So you only cast one vote?  And say I wanted to vote Lega on the list but didn't like the FI candidate in my constituency then tough my Lega vote counts towards that FI candidate's total?

That's naff if it's the case.  I'm all for MMP but it should be that you cast two votes - one for the list and one for the FPTP seat.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2021, 10:32:51 AM »

It seems a shame for Batty to make lots of posts in a row so I'll break it up by saying:

Go Meloni !!1!!1!
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2021, 01:54:35 AM »

It seems a shame for Batty to make lots of posts in a row so I'll break it up by saying:

Go Meloni !!1!!1!

I appreciate that you opt for the #girlboss-led hard right over the overgrown-Call of Duty-bro-led hard right.

I'm such a simp right?
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2021, 07:12:33 AM »

Sgarbi-mentum incoming and LOUD.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2021, 01:55:45 PM »

We should also have the final outline of the main candidates in the regional election in Calabria, since the centre-left and M5S have officialized their joint candidate in Maria Antonietta Ventura, president of the regional chapter of UNICEF.

Let them eat panettone.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2021, 02:45:37 PM »

We should also have the final outline of the main candidates in the regional election in Calabria, since the centre-left and M5S have officialized their joint candidate in Maria Antonietta Ventura, president of the regional chapter of UNICEF.

...and her candidacy was extremely short-lived. Ventura renounced a few days ago, and the Calabrian centre-left has to be in chaos now.


Coincidentally Marie Antoinette also got cut short.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2021, 04:07:37 AM »

Why does Italy have so many polls compared to other countries?  Is it just much cheaper somehow or is there another reason?

I wish other countries would do as much polling as the Italians pump out.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2021, 12:33:17 PM »

Green shoots of recovery for the Italian left or too early to tell?
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2022, 07:03:52 AM »

Ultimately Brugnaro will, I imagine, likely form a joint list with other nobodies (IDEA, UDC, Sgarbi) to create the fourth leg of CDX's stool (a la Fitto in '18) and Giovanni Toti will run with Renzi and possibly Calenda. I can't see an IV-IaC-Az list* having much more success than Monti did though unless Draghi inexplicably decided to run as head of the list.

* I wonder if it would have painful En Marche knockoff name like Avanti! or something...
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2022, 07:21:17 AM »

It's not yet finalised but here's how things stand for the Centre-right Coalition (CDX):

Fratelli d'Italia
LegaLega per Salvini Premier
Sardinian Action Party
Italian Liberal Right
Forza Italia-UDCForza Italia
Union of the Centre
New Italian Socialist Party
Pensioners' Party
Christian Revolution
Animalist Movement
Noi con l'Italia
Coraggio Italia

There will be a number of right-of-centre regionalist parties (AAC, MpA, DB etc) running on the lists of one of the main three partners and a joint list (last time named "Berlusconi-Salvini-Meloni") for the Italians Abroad.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2022, 04:33:24 PM »

Fitto has such a long career of failing upwards that he almost seems British. Which given his history, isn't a surprise.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2023, 07:45:26 AM »

BASED! This is the first time in a while that a Jew has been in charge of a major European party (that wasn't a personal vehicle, looking at you, Zemmour)

Anyway, why did Schlein lose Emilia-Romagna? She's from there and was Vice President of the region (I assume that's the Italian equivalent of Lieutenant Governor, feel free to correct me)

This depends on whether you count Zingaretti as "a Jew" (which I don't think he does himself, but part of his maternal family is Jewish and his great-grandmother was deported to Auschwitz). I also assume you are counting Sluha Narodu as a personal vehicle?

Don't feed the American.
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