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« on: December 02, 2015, 03:18:11 PM »
Quote from: MisSkeptic on December 02, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
It's sad to hear of another shooting, hopefully no one dies and the suspect(s) are soon captured. However, it wouldn't surprise me if I'm wrong.

Initial reports are at least 12 dead so far.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 04:29:40 PM »
A lot of fake reports coming in... People reporting anything and everything right now.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 04:58:13 PM »
14+ dead, 14+ wounded

No known identity or motive
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2015, 06:09:03 PM »
High speed pursuit of black SUV currently. Shots fired.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 06:19:15 PM »
One suspect likely dead
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 06:23:24 PM »
Now 17+ wounded
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2015, 06:54:53 PM »
Second suspect either dead or in custody.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2015, 07:47:15 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2015, 07:50:18 PM by realisticidealist »
One witness described a suspect in fleeing SUV as a "regular white dude". Hopefully we'll find out more soon.

EDIT: Two suspects dead, one unaccounted for

EDIT 2: One deceased suspect may have been female
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2015, 08:27:24 PM »
Quote from: Ebsy on December 02, 2015, 08:22:58 PM
I would say this should serve as a lesson to certain members of this forum and the broader conservative movement, but that would just be a waste of time.

There were just as many people immediately jumping on the "far-right Christian terrorists" bandwagon on twitter, Reddit, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 08:38:41 PM »
Deceased suspects confirmed as one male and one female.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 08:45:42 PM »
I'm not yet convinced that this is related to any type of terrorism at all, honestly.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2015, 09:18:13 PM »
Quote from: Classic Conservative on December 02, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
Lead suspect American Citizen. Peter King has said that it is a foreign name most likely Arabic.

Even if true, that doesn't inherently mean it was terrorism. However, that would explain the ambiguity we've heard from the FBI.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2015, 09:24:51 PM »
MSNBC reported "Sayeed Farook" is a top suspect.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2015, 09:59:25 PM »
Farook appears to be a health department employee. Police are searching his house now.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2015, 10:18:43 PM »
Farook's neighbors report the Farooks had recently moved in, received an unusually large number of packages recently, and were doing lots of work in their garage late at night, but they didn't report it as they didn't want to appear racist/profiling.
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2015, 10:24:55 PM »
Quote from: MisSkeptic on December 02, 2015, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: realisticidealist on December 02, 2015, 10:18:43 PM
Farook's neighbors report the Farooks had recently moved in, received an unusually large number of packages recently, and were doing lots of work in their garage late at night, but they didn't report it as they didn't want to appear racist/profiling.

So it looks like the suspects have been preparing for this attack for awhile.

Given the sheer amount of guns, ammunition, tactical armor, and pipe bombs involved, I think that's safe to say.
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2015, 10:54:04 PM »
Quote from: Ebsy on December 02, 2015, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: The Unbearable Invicibility of Hillary Clinton on December 02, 2015, 10:30:50 PM
It does sound premeditated --he didn't rush home after an argument at the party and load everything up.  I guess the big question is how they obtained all that stuff and if someone helped them or can you just order all that stuff online?
With the market for survivalist supplies what it is, I imagine a lot of military grade equipment can be ordered online, no questions asked.

You can literally buy almost anything online, but that doesn't mean it was bought/shipped legally.
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2015, 11:38:14 PM »
Fox News and LA Times report woman suspect was a Qatari citizen.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2015, 12:53:54 AM »
Fox News reports Joint Terrorism Task Force now involved.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2015, 12:39:26 PM »
Quote from: Clarko95 on December 02, 2015, 07:13:41 PM
So this makes 355 mass shootings this year, in case no one has posted the tally yet.

That's 100% dependent on how you count these things.

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2015, 11:48:00 AM »
Is this now the watershed "homegrown Islamic terrorist" incident?
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