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« on: August 12, 2021, 09:31:17 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2021, 09:33:22 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?

Many people have lost their faith in this game, and I for one, am prepared to bring it back.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2021, 09:35:57 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?

Many people have lost their faith in this game, and I for one, am prepared to bring it back.
What is your specific plan to bring activity back? At this point, the problem seems a bit more systemic than could be solved by a change of power.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2021, 09:49:25 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2021, 09:51:11 PM »

At least the Southern Chamber is active...for now.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2021, 09:52:55 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?

Many people have lost their faith in this game, and I for one, am prepared to bring it back.

What is your specific plan to bring activity back? At this point, the problem seems a bit more systemic than could be solved by a change of power.

I am going to ensure that we expand NPCs, enhance the game engine by promoting current events, and helping to orient new members into Atlasia.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2021, 09:54:59 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?

Many people have lost their faith in this game, and I for one, am prepared to bring it back.
I will lose faith in the game and support secession of Lincoln if you are elected.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2021, 09:55:50 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.
The regional legislatures also are very inactive and the regional legislatures feel like a graveyard.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2021, 10:03:16 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?

Many people have lost their faith in this game, and I for one, am prepared to bring it back.

What is your specific plan to bring activity back? At this point, the problem seems a bit more systemic than could be solved by a change of power.

I am going to ensure that we expand NPCs, enhance the game engine by promoting current events, and helping to orient new members into Atlasia.

To be frank, this situation is not going to fixed by policy. We need a serious shift in culture amongst the last 20-or-so core "active" members that are left in this game, and I don't believe that that can be legislated. I thought that the Fifth Constitution might have opened the door for some sort of change, but it appears that there has been none (in fact, I would wager that this situation has worsened since). Any legislative actions need to be backed up by an acceptance by the core members and a significant amount of buy-in and intrigue from said core members. Such has not happened yet and with the near-collapse of the Federalist party, I am doubtful that such buy-in is possible anymore, at least without a significant change in course of events for the party (and the game as a whole).   

Also, how exactly do you plan to get new members into the game? That's not exactly a simple proposition as many party leaders (including myself) can attest.

I hate to sound alarmist but I have seen this situation play out time and time again with any group of people who get together to do something (like Atlasia) -- this game is going off a cliff and no one seems to care. With no action, we will seal this game's fate. Even with action, I'm not sure much can seriously be done anymore that will actually cause a change.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2021, 10:07:03 PM »

Spark, have you tried to recruit people into the game and try to get them active? It is a very hard task.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2021, 10:10:32 PM »

I was literally away for a solid weekend and come back to see a number of new posts I can count on my hand, like what is this, a graveyard?

Many people have lost their faith in this game, and I for one, am prepared to bring it back.

What is your specific plan to bring activity back? At this point, the problem seems a bit more systemic than could be solved by a change of power.

I am going to ensure that we expand NPCs, enhance the game engine by promoting current events, and helping to orient new members into Atlasia.

To be frank, this situation is not going to fixed by policy. We need a serious shift in culture amongst the last 20-or-so core "active" members that are left in this game, and I don't believe that that can be legislated. I thought that the Fifth Constitution might have opened the door for some sort of change, but it appears that there has been none (in fact, I would wager that this situation has worsened since). Any legislative actions need to be backed up by an acceptance by the core members and a significant amount of buy-in and intrigue from said core members. Such has not happened yet and with the near-collapse of the Federalist party, I am doubtful that such buy-in is possible anymore, at least without a significant change in course of events for the party (and the game as a whole).   

Also, how exactly do you plan to get new members into the game? That's not exactly a simple proposition as many party leaders (including myself) can attest.

I hate to sound alarmist but I have seen this situation play out time and time again with any group of people who get together to do something (like Atlasia) -- this game is going off a cliff and no one seems to care. With no action, we will seal this game's fate. Even with action, I'm not sure much can seriously be done anymore that will actually cause a change.

Instating activity requirements via statute could be used as a last resort to ensure that everyone takes their roles seriously. However, I do believe that any additional activity is bound to be driven by new members into Atlasia.

Since we've curtailed off-site recruiting shortly preceding elections, it is a fine line. I suppose using Discord to grow our ranks organically would be an option. This site is popular and many people know about it. There have been a number of new members that have recently joined, and I hope to acquaint them with the game. Lest, if we do nothing, Atlasia will stagnate. That is the last thing that we need right now.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2021, 10:23:25 PM »

Instating activity requirements via statute could be used as a last resort to ensure that everyone takes their roles seriously. However, I do believe that any additional activity is bound to be driven by new members into Atlasia.

Since we've curtailed off-site recruiting shortly preceding elections, it is a fine line. I suppose using Discord to grow our ranks organically would be an option. This site is popular and many people know about it. There have been a number of new members that have recently joined, and I hope to acquaint them with the game. Lest, if we do nothing, Atlasia will stagnate. That is the last thing that we need right now.
Installing activity requirements, at this point, will do nothing but turn away (the few) people from running for office. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't drown the horse and hope it makes them drink.

As Atlasia's history has demonstrated, legislating requirements cannot and will not start actual movements for change. Legislation can be used as an accompaniment to a desire for change, but such a desire must come from the hearts of the people. Out of the 19-21 (I just calculated a list that probably isn't accurate but still) core active members left, there aren't a lot who seem to want change or even acknowledge that we have a serious problem.

How exactly would you use Discord? And how would you attract such new members? The site is popular indeed, but while the forum still has regular activity, this game does not. We need specific actions to popularize this game, and actions that all (or most) of the core members would be willing to invest in. I haven't yet seen anything that would meet that standard.

I agree that doing nothing is the worst thing we can do, and I will be the first to champion any real change that lights a fire in this game, but I have failed to see (or come up with) any ideas that would do such a thing.
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2021, 06:52:48 AM »

Instating activity requirements via statute could be used as a last resort to ensure that everyone takes their roles seriously. However, I do believe that any additional activity is bound to be driven by new members into Atlasia.

Since we've curtailed off-site recruiting shortly preceding elections, it is a fine line. I suppose using Discord to grow our ranks organically would be an option. This site is popular and many people know about it. There have been a number of new members that have recently joined, and I hope to acquaint them with the game. Lest, if we do nothing, Atlasia will stagnate. That is the last thing that we need right now.
Installing activity requirements, at this point, will do nothing but turn away (the few) people from running for office. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't drown the horse and hope it makes them drink.

As Atlasia's history has demonstrated, legislating requirements cannot and will not start actual movements for change. Legislation can be used as an accompaniment to a desire for change, but such a desire must come from the hearts of the people. Out of the 19-21 (I just calculated a list that probably isn't accurate but still) core active members left, there aren't a lot who seem to want change or even acknowledge that we have a serious problem.

How exactly would you use Discord? And how would you attract such new members? The site is popular indeed, but while the forum still has regular activity, this game does not. We need specific actions to popularize this game, and actions that all (or most) of the core members would be willing to invest in. I haven't yet seen anything that would meet that standard.

I agree that doing nothing is the worst thing we can do, and I will be the first to champion any real change that lights a fire in this game, but I have failed to see (or come up with) any ideas that would do such a thing.

We need to promote Atlasia through the Discord channels. Once new members learn about Atlasia and understand how it operates, word will get out and more members will join. The core members need to recognize the responsibility to keep the game thriving. As for legislation, I do agree that it must first come from the people. If that is a priority for Atlasians, I will not hesitate to introduce it.

Absolutely. Doing nothing perpetuates the status quo and that is something I remain firmly against as you know.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2021, 04:02:06 PM »

Instating activity requirements via statute could be used as a last resort to ensure that everyone takes their roles seriously. However, I do believe that any additional activity is bound to be driven by new members into Atlasia.

Since we've curtailed off-site recruiting shortly preceding elections, it is a fine line. I suppose using Discord to grow our ranks organically would be an option. This site is popular and many people know about it. There have been a number of new members that have recently joined, and I hope to acquaint them with the game. Lest, if we do nothing, Atlasia will stagnate. That is the last thing that we need right now.
Installing activity requirements, at this point, will do nothing but turn away (the few) people from running for office. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't drown the horse and hope it makes them drink.

As Atlasia's history has demonstrated, legislating requirements cannot and will not start actual movements for change. Legislation can be used as an accompaniment to a desire for change, but such a desire must come from the hearts of the people. Out of the 19-21 (I just calculated a list that probably isn't accurate but still) core active members left, there aren't a lot who seem to want change or even acknowledge that we have a serious problem.

How exactly would you use Discord? And how would you attract such new members? The site is popular indeed, but while the forum still has regular activity, this game does not. We need specific actions to popularize this game, and actions that all (or most) of the core members would be willing to invest in. I haven't yet seen anything that would meet that standard.

I agree that doing nothing is the worst thing we can do, and I will be the first to champion any real change that lights a fire in this game, but I have failed to see (or come up with) any ideas that would do such a thing.

We need to promote Atlasia through the Discord channels. Once new members learn about Atlasia and understand how it operates, word will get out and more members will join. The core members need to recognize the responsibility to keep the game thriving. As for legislation, I do agree that it must first come from the people. If that is a priority for Atlasians, I will not hesitate to introduce it.
This is what most parties try to do.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2021, 04:12:23 PM »

Instating activity requirements via statute could be used as a last resort to ensure that everyone takes their roles seriously. However, I do believe that any additional activity is bound to be driven by new members into Atlasia.

Since we've curtailed off-site recruiting shortly preceding elections, it is a fine line. I suppose using Discord to grow our ranks organically would be an option. This site is popular and many people know about it. There have been a number of new members that have recently joined, and I hope to acquaint them with the game. Lest, if we do nothing, Atlasia will stagnate. That is the last thing that we need right now.
Installing activity requirements, at this point, will do nothing but turn away (the few) people from running for office. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't drown the horse and hope it makes them drink.

As Atlasia's history has demonstrated, legislating requirements cannot and will not start actual movements for change. Legislation can be used as an accompaniment to a desire for change, but such a desire must come from the hearts of the people. Out of the 19-21 (I just calculated a list that probably isn't accurate but still) core active members left, there aren't a lot who seem to want change or even acknowledge that we have a serious problem.

How exactly would you use Discord? And how would you attract such new members? The site is popular indeed, but while the forum still has regular activity, this game does not. We need specific actions to popularize this game, and actions that all (or most) of the core members would be willing to invest in. I haven't yet seen anything that would meet that standard.

I agree that doing nothing is the worst thing we can do, and I will be the first to champion any real change that lights a fire in this game, but I have failed to see (or come up with) any ideas that would do such a thing.

We need to promote Atlasia through the Discord channels. Once new members learn about Atlasia and understand how it operates, word will get out and more members will join. The core members need to recognize the responsibility to keep the game thriving. As for legislation, I do agree that it must first come from the people. If that is a priority for Atlasians, I will not hesitate to introduce it.
This is what most parties try to do.

Well, we need to do it more often and I am open to hearing other ideas. We can lay our proposals out in the public debate on Wednesday.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2021, 11:11:47 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.

Can someone explain this to me? Been gone a while and am staying away from Discord atm.
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2021, 11:16:30 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.

Can someone explain this to me? Been gone a while and am staying away from Discord atm.

LT doxxed a Laborite on Discord after managing to get hold of the Labor spreadsheet and is being prosecuted for it.
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2021, 11:21:35 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.

Can someone explain this to me? Been gone a while and am staying away from Discord atm.

LT doxxed a Laborite on Discord after managing to get hold of the Labor spreadsheet and is being prosecuted for it.
I am not guilty of that.
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2021, 11:23:35 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.

Can someone explain this to me? Been gone a while and am staying away from Discord atm.

LT doxxed a Laborite on Discord after managing to get hold of the Labor spreadsheet and is being prosecuted for it.
I am not guilty of that.
I'm not saying you are LT. Just saying that's the situation which you are accused of.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2021, 11:29:57 PM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.

Can someone explain this to me? Been gone a while and am staying away from Discord atm.

LT doxxed a Laborite on Discord after managing to get hold of the Labor spreadsheet and is being prosecuted for it.

Is there a thread about this topic somewhere or has most of the discussion been limited to Discord? Spent a bit trying to find more information about the situation on the forum and didn't find much.
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2021, 12:00:58 AM »

Absolutely. It feels like the LT situation has been the final straw for Federalist activity, and they've totally disengaged with the game.

Can someone explain this to me? Been gone a while and am staying away from Discord atm.

LT doxxed a Laborite on Discord after managing to get hold of the Labor spreadsheet and is being prosecuted for it.

Is there a thread about this topic somewhere or has most of the discussion been limited to Discord? Spent a bit trying to find more information about the situation on the forum and didn't find much.

Don't think there's much about it on the forum, though there was some very ugly threads immediately post-election as Feds were slow to accept the results while Labor was very aggressively triumphant.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2021, 07:31:45 AM »

My view has always been that NPC elections are a fundamental distraction from the core of Atlasia and would have been laughed out of discussion in the old days- they serve no real purpose when the two functions of the game are

1.) legislating 2.) running campaigns relying on real voters.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2021, 01:18:26 PM »

My view has always been that NPC elections are a fundamental distraction from the core of Atlasia and would have been laughed out of discussion in the old days- they serve no real purpose when the two functions of the game are

1.) legislating 2.) running campaigns relying on real voters.

     I wonder how much voters really care about NPCs anyway. It is nice to establish that Atlasia has an existence beyond the actual users on the forum who vote and hold office, but the idea of building fictional characters doing things as a major part of a game that lives on player interaction is somewhat puzzling and does not help in the engagement department.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2021, 05:16:27 PM »

My view has always been that NPC elections are a fundamental distraction from the core of Atlasia and would have been laughed out of discussion in the old days- they serve no real purpose when the two functions of the game are

1.) legislating 2.) running campaigns relying on real voters.

Kinda hard to do that when 90+% of voters go the same way every time.
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