Why do quite many homosexuals vote Republican?

[opebo]

I'm no innovator, Vosem.  Anything I post is obvious common knowledge.

[opebo]

I'm no innovator, Vosem.  Anything I post is obvious common knowledge.

Your posts, and I say this in the nicest way possible, are insane conspiracy theory bulls**t. But they're fun to read.

But how can it be a 'conspiracy theory'?  I'm describing the open and obvious legal/political/economic structure of the society.  There is nothing hidden or conspiratorial about capitalism, Vosem, nor have I ever claimed so.

stero-typical effeminate hippie pofters.

You know, I've never thought of hippies as effeminate, not at all.  They always seem very hetero to me - hairy guys, not particularly in shape, and sort of mother-earthy women.  Very uncool scene, centered around pot and hairness, probably mostly eschewing speed and $10 cocktails.. I don't see hippy as having anything to do with homosexuality.

[opebo]

Just to add one thought to this most energetic thread, an un-closeted gay Pub can do a lot to change hearts and minds within his party, simply by being himself. So to demonize such folks as having their values all screwed up or something, ignores the potential good such people can achieve. On sexuality matters, personal anecdotal experience counts for a lot in my experience.

Ok, aside from the fact that I do LOVE sexual anecdotes, I'm not sure making the GOP less hate-mongering is 'good' for my side.

[opebo]

In an issue-based advocacy situation, the way to win an issue usually is to build support for it within the opposite party such that virtually all of your party agrees with you and the other party's status is something more like "confused" on the issue. Basically what happened to the Democrats on gun control when the Republicans pretty much won the issue.

Yeah but I don't care so very much about this issue, only about defeating Republicans.

[opebo]

It's a conspiracy theory because the way you interpret the legal/political/economic structure of society (as benefiting only the rich and not anyone else at all) is very unusual, and such unusual beliefs are usually labeled 'conspiracy theories' in American political discourse whether or not they include conspiracies.

Come on, its as plain as the nose on your face - you can tell the legal/political/economic structure benefits only them because:  They have enormous wealth and privilege.  Think of it this way - instead of using all your rationales for them being your masters, just 'follow the money' - follow the privilege.  Imagine yourself as an alien flying over your city in your saucer - what do you see?  You see a few people living in idleness and luxury in palaces, secured by guards and servants.  You also see a vast populace working for those few, and doing their bidding.

Now, who does the structure of society serve?

Because obviously Republicans are horrid corporatist anti-poor neoliberal jerks

Yes, and that is most definitely common knowledge, Vosem.

[opebo]

I just looked around opebo, and didn't notice I was sitting in a palace, surrounded by guards and servants. What happened?  Where the F are they? 

Torie, you not really all that rich, are you?

[opebo]

You are the one that put me in the super rich oppressor class, not I opebo.  I was just going along with your ride as a passenger is all.

It is a rhetorical device of course, and after all you and all the right-wingers on here are apologists for that class, whether members or not.  Anyway I suspect you could have a houseboy if you liked.

[opebo]

Wait, what happened to the hoard of browns Torie employs then gets high with?  

Yes, I am very fond of browns, Grumps. They know how to have a good time in general. 

I'm sure they are gratified that you are amused...