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T'Chenka
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« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2024, 09:33:03 AM »

Follow the money.

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At three colleges, the protests are being encouraged by paid radicals who are “fellows” of a Soros-funded group called the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR).

USCPR provides up to $7,800 for its community-based fellows and between $2,880 and $3,660 for its campus-based “fellows” in return for spending eight hours a week organizing “campaigns led by Palestinian organizations.”

They are trained to “rise up, to revolution.”

Occam's razor would suggest that these people like protesting for causes that they feel strongly about anyways, and just so happen to be the ones who are better at it. They're likely happy to receive money from an organization for doing what they were already going to do anyways.

You're making it sound like more of a conspiracy than it probably actually is. "Follow the money" implies that Soros and his money are the reason this stuff is happening. That's unlikely.
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« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2024, 09:33:33 AM »

OH NO, NOT GEORGE SOROS FUNDING THE CAMPUS RIOTS!  CAUSING THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR FINE COUNTRY! THAT BILLIONARIE COMMIE!!!

Speaking of anti-semitic tropes...

This preposterousness is used to ensure that what George Soros's activities in funding Far Leftist causes through a network of organizations is never openly discussed.

Why should families of Jewish students who have suffered real and immediate oppression not be able to know who funded all this?  Do people really think that such an effort, complete with supplies, professionally made signs, and coordinated strategies just emerged from nowhere?

Whomever funded these protests needs to be exposed, and they need to be prosecuted.  They financed criminality.  And the quoted poster talking about "anti-semetic tropes" is laughable, especially from an open Marxist who is one of the most ardent "From the River to the Sea!" posters here.
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« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2024, 09:37:44 AM »

OH NO, NOT GEORGE SOROS FUNDING THE CAMPUS RIOTS!  CAUSING THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR FINE COUNTRY! THAT BILLIONARIE COMMIE!!!

Speaking of anti-semitic tropes...

This preposterousness is used to ensure that what George Soros's activities in funding Far Leftist causes through a network of organizations is never openly discussed.

Why should families of Jewish students who have suffered real and immediate oppression not be able to know who funded all this?  Do people really think that such an effort, complete with supplies, professionally made signs, and coordinated strategies just emerged from nowhere?

Whomever funded these protests needs to be exposed, and they need to be prosecuted.  They financed criminality.  And the previous poster talking about "anti-semetic tropes" is laughable, especially from an open Marxist who is one of the most ardent "From the River to the Sea!" posters here.


This is ironic; since a relatively left leaning strand of Zionism called " Labour Zioniosm " was the dominant ideology in Israeli politics from the founding, for the next 30 years. David Ben Gurion was a fan of lenin.

Indeed, it was the progressive left, who supported this Labor Zionism.

The type of zionism Fuzzy, that you and other Evangelicals support probably is Revionist Zionism. An ideology that has only garnered steam in the last 20 years or so and this strand of zionism has direct connections to Benjamin Nethenyahu and the Likud Party.
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« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2024, 09:42:44 AM »

Why should families of Jewish students who have suffered real and immediate oppression not be able to know who funded all this?

Other than a few posters about "antifada" around the cafeteria making kids uncomfortable, or a handful of racists yelling anti-semetic stuff at a handful of students (this is the exception, not the norm), what real and immediate oppression of jewish students has happened, exactly? I saw that the student who complained about "Israeli kouskous" being renamed to "kouskous" at the cafeteria also claims that somebody poked her in the eye on purpose (the video evidence is inconclusive). I also saw one jewish kid complaining that protestors were blocking him from entering the building, when in fact they were blocking everybody and not just jewish students.

Do you have any concrete examples of "real and immediate oppression" that more than 10 or 20 jewish students have had to deal with? I'm not talking about jewish students feeling unsafe or some idiot with a racist protest sign. You said "real and immediate oppression".

Also, it doesn't really take financial backing for protestors to yell racist stuff or get violent. That can all be done for free. Your focus on who funded one or two speakers for working 10 hours per week for a pro-Palestinian organization is probably not directly related to why any specific incident happened.
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« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2024, 09:46:38 AM »

OH NO, NOT GEORGE SOROS FUNDING THE CAMPUS RIOTS!  CAUSING THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR FINE COUNTRY! THAT BILLIONARIE COMMIE!!!

Speaking of anti-semitic tropes...

This preposterousness is used to ensure that what George Soros's activities in funding Far Leftist causes through a network of organizations is never openly discussed.

Why should families of Jewish students who have suffered real and immediate oppression not be able to know who funded all this?  Do people really think that such an effort, complete with supplies, professionally made signs, and coordinated strategies just emerged from nowhere?

Whomever funded these protests needs to be exposed, and they need to be prosecuted.  They financed criminality.  And the previous poster talking about "anti-semetic tropes" is laughable, especially from an open Marxist who is one of the most ardent "From the River to the Sea!" posters here.


This is ironic; since a relatively left leaning strand of Zionism called " Labour Zioniosm " was the dominant ideology in Israeli politics from the founding, for the next 30 years. David Ben Gurion was a fan of lenin.

Indeed, it was the progressive left, who supported this Labor Zionism.

The type of zionism Fuzzy, that you and other Evangelicals support probably is Revionist Zionism. An ideology that has only garnered steam in the last 20 years or so and this strand of zionism has direct connections to Benjamin Nethenyahu and the Likud Party.

That's a false assumption on your part.  I don't take the position I take to hurry the Rapture along, or something like that.

My closest friends in my formative years were Jews, as well as several long-term girlfriends.  A number of them had grandparents that suffered great persecution in various countries in Eastern Europe, and some endured anti-Semitism from non-Jews in America.  

WWII and Hitler demonstrates that Jews have good reasons for believing that the world is not safe for them, and that they have a NEED for a piece of the World's Turf.  The one they have in Israel is one that they have an indigenous claim on, far more than the Palestinians do.  And the Palestinians were on the side of the Ottoman Empire in WWI and on the side of Nazi Germany in WWII.  The moral case for Zionism is, to me, clear as a bell.  Zionism is NECESSARY.  The Palestinian Arabs have, to varying degrees, begrudged the Jews a piece of the World's Turf for a long time, but WWII and the Grand Mufti ratchet that up and it has never stopped.
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« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2024, 09:55:51 AM »

OH NO, NOT GEORGE SOROS FUNDING THE CAMPUS RIOTS!  CAUSING THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR FINE COUNTRY! THAT BILLIONARIE COMMIE!!!

Speaking of anti-semitic tropes...

This preposterousness is used to ensure that what George Soros's activities in funding Far Leftist causes through a network of organizations is never openly discussed.

Why should families of Jewish students who have suffered real and immediate oppression not be able to know who funded all this?  Do people really think that such an effort, complete with supplies, professionally made signs, and coordinated strategies just emerged from nowhere?

Whomever funded these protests needs to be exposed, and they need to be prosecuted.  They financed criminality.  And the previous poster talking about "anti-semetic tropes" is laughable, especially from an open Marxist who is one of the most ardent "From the River to the Sea!" posters here.


This is ironic; since a relatively left leaning strand of Zionism called " Labour Zioniosm " was the dominant ideology in Israeli politics from the founding, for the next 30 years. David Ben Gurion was a fan of lenin.

Indeed, it was the progressive left, who supported this Labor Zionism.

The type of zionism Fuzzy, that you and other Evangelicals support probably is Revionist Zionism. An ideology that has only garnered steam in the last 20 years or so and this strand of zionism has direct connections to Benjamin Nethenyahu and the Likud Party.

That's a false assumption on your part.  I don't take the position I take to hurry the Rapture along, or something like that.

My closest friends in my formative years were Jews, as well as several long-term girlfriends.  A number of them had grandparents that suffered great persecution in various countries in Eastern Europe, and some endured anti-Semitism from non-Jews in America.  

WWII and Hitler demonstrates that Jews have good reasons for believing that the world is not safe for them, and that they have a NEED for a piece of the World's Turf.  The one they have in Israel is one that they have an indigenous claim on, far more than the Palestinians do.  And the Palestinians were on the side of the Ottoman Empire in WWI and on the side of Nazi Germany in WWII.  The moral case for Zionism is, to me, clear as a bell.  Zionism is NECESSARY.  The Palestinian Arabs have, to varying degrees, begrudged the Jews a piece of the World's Turf for a long time, but WWII and the Grand Mufti ratchet that up and it has never stopped.

Yeah but what type of Zionism is also important. The strand that is dominant in Israeli politics now, is highly maximilaist. And will probably inflame tensions with the Palestinians for decades to come.



And it has already inflamed the tensions.


The zionism that dominated Israeli politics for the first 30 years, was far more left leaning than you would have liked Fuzzy. Labor Zionism. This was the domiant ideology in Israel for a good amount of time.
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