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[CLARENCE 2015!]

I would say E-4 and O-3 since most enlisted hit E-3 immediately after training

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Alright. If we go with 6:1 enlisted:officers, that's roughly 14000 officers & 86000 enlisted. Assuming averages of E-4 & O-3, that gives us $436,650,000 in terms of total salaries for the militia.

     For the record, this isn't exactly stuff that needs to go in the bill, besides the actual paygrades. I'm doing this to try to figure out how much it will cost.

[Yelnoc]

Sorry that haven't taken an active role in the crafting of this bill.  Like I said in my office, I've been busy.  Anyway, I believe the below is where we are.  "Size and Structure" and "Paygrades" still need to be cleaned up, and bits and pieces need to be clarified.  Over all though, good job.  I think this will be our Big Fall Bill.

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[Associate Justice PiT]

     I don't think we need to include the number of people in each rank (doesn't seem like it should be the sort of thing that is defined anyway) with the estimate I came up with. I also don't know that the ranks have names per se or that there is other relevant information to include. We probably only need 2.C to define that there are nine enlisted ranks & seven officer ranks.

     Also, thoughts on my proposed retention bonus?

[Pingvin]

   Does E/O-3 sound reasonable?

It sounds.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Here are the ranks we should go with-

Army Enlisted-
E-1: Private
E-2: Private E-2
E-3: Private First Class
E-4: Specialist/Corporal
E-5: Sergeant
E-6: Staff Sergeant
E-7: Sergeant First Class
E-8: First Sergeant/Master Sergeant
E-9: Sergeant Major/Command Sergeant Major

Air Enlisted-
E-1: Airman Basic
E-2: Airman
E-3: Airman First Class
E-4: Senior Airman
E-5: Staff Sergeant
E-6: Technical Sergeant
E-7: First Sergeant/Master Sergeant
E-8: First Sergeant/Senior Master Sergeant
E-9: First Sergeant/Chief Master Sergeant/Command Chief Master Sergeant

Officer for both-
O-1: 2nd Lieutenant
O-2: 1st Lieutenant
O-3: Captain
O-4: Major
O-5: Lieutenant Colonel
O-6: Colonel
O-7: Brigadier General

[Associate Justice PiT]

     So inserting...

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[Mr. Taft Republican]

May I just suggest )-7 be changed to something like "Region Marshall" just so as to be unconfused should Atlasia and IDS forces need to coordinate. Or put in: "In cases of cooperation, region militia forces shall be subordinate to the Atlasian Regular forces."

[Associate Justice PiT]

May I just suggest )-7 be changed to something like "Region Marshall" just so as to be unconfused should Atlasia and IDS forces need to coordinate. Or put in: "In cases of cooperation, region militia forces shall be subordinate to the Atlasian Regular forces."

     Interesting point. May I suggest instead that we go with Deputy Adjutant General/Adjutant General (a position established by the Southeast Militia Initiative) so that we don't end up in the odd position of having the IDS Militia being headed by some random appointed bureaucrat, but rather require that the head be an officer of the highest rank.

     On a similar note, I realized it should be Army Militia & Air Militia rather than Army National Guard & Air National Guard.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Someone who would be Adjutant General or Deputy Adjutant General would be a high-ranking officer- their rank would not be "Adjutant General" but rather Brigadier General who would be appointed AG

Does that make sense?...notsure if I am getting my point across

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I see what you mean. What I was suggesting before would have limited the O-7 rank to two people in the Militia. I don't think promotion should depend so much on who is above you in rank, i.e. if there are three people qualified to be Brigadier General, there should be room for three Brigadier Generals.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I am hereby applying for Adjutant General

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I like the job you've been doing here in the Legislature.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

     I like the job you've been doing here in the Legislature.

Wherever I'm needed most cap'n

[Mr. Taft Republican]

We've already had to abolish a useless office this year, can't have you slipping into inactivity in one

[Associate Justice PiT]

     We've never actually had anyone fill Adjutant General. There is always a number of positions that exist in name only, since they don't have any actual duties that need to be performed.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Anyway, I think we now need to discuss pensions.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

     Anyway, I think we now need to discuss pensions.

I would propose the following percentages of final annual pay to be given as pensions (not including disability or hardship pay when called nationally)

5 years- 10%
10 years-30%
15 years-50%
20 years and up- 100%

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Annual pay being defined as monthly drill stipend x12 + annual training pay?

[CLARENCE 2015!]

     Annual pay being defined as monthly drill stipend x12 + annual training pay?

Also including retention bonuses

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Annual pay being defined as monthly drill stipend x12 + annual training pay?

Also including retention bonuses

     I don't think we've defined retention bonuses yet.

[Yelnoc]

     Annual pay being defined as monthly drill stipend x12 + annual training pay?

Also including retention bonuses

     I don't think we've defined retention bonuses yet.

We have not.  Is a retention paid out annually to militiamen who have stayed on the entire year?  Is it a monthly thing?  And what sums are we talking about?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Annual pay being defined as monthly drill stipend x12 + annual training pay?

Also including retention bonuses

     I don't think we've defined retention bonuses yet.

We have not.  Is a retention paid out annually to militiamen who have stayed on the entire year?  Is it a monthly thing?  And what sums are we talking about?

     Since the pensions are based on annual pay, I would guess that militiamen sign up for terms by-the-year. As such, it seems to me that it would likely be paid out as a sign-up bonus to current militiamen who sign up for another year in the service.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Since htis is an online board perhaps its best not to be too complicated. We can give the Adjutant General $5M annually for discretionary, merit-based retention pay.  Usually it would be used forpositions where we need men, usually infantry, artillery, and technical fields such as engineers or intellignence

[Associate Justice PiT]

     In that case, that makes sense. Probably shouldn't be too overbearing in dictating how the Militia pays people.