DC Unrest Megathread

[Indy Texas]

The title of the thread says 4 dead- who are the other 3?

Morbidly obese Trumpers who had medical issues from what I've heard.

Good.

If any more of them are seriously injured/ill, they should be refused admission to the hospital. After all, they'd just be taking away space from COVID-19 victims and these are people who refuse to wear masks and think COVID-19 is a hoax.

[Indy Texas]

The video is actually very good. He should have recorded this video on November 6 or 7 when it became clear that he had lost the election.

He should resign now to avoid being impeached and Pence should pardon him.

God's how in God's name can you say he deserves pardoned? Is this just a way of pardoning your own conscience for supporting this neo-Nazi?

No. It's just an embarrassment to the country to have a former President prosecuted for crimes and possibly convicted.

Chinese state media has been absolutely ecstatic about the crisis in Washington, and they had live reporters on the ground.

What do you think was their tone? No prizes for the right answer.

They're ecstatic that America's four-year long international humiliation on the world stage has reached a crescendo.

Donald Trump has guaranteed the US can never be a major world power the way it was before he took office.

[Indy Texas]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

They really think the world was "laughing at us" when Obama was president and that now they "respect us" with him as president.

In reality, we were respected when Obama was president and they've been laughing at us since 2017.

[Indy Texas]

Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

To be fair, pretty much every Republican has condemned the violence, just as how establishment Dems condemned BLM riots.

147 Republicans voted to object to the election based on the president's lies. They know his claims are and have always been completely fabricated and they've decided perpetuating the lies is worth more to them than defending and uniting the country. Those lies triggered the violence by Trump's supporters. He's radicalized them with lies that their country is being stolen from them, their culture is being stolen from them, their election is being stolen from them.

The lies are behind the violence and unless the Republican Party comes out and apologizes to the nation for breeding terrorism in the gullible to get votes, they're 100% still the pieces of crap to blame.

Saying "I still think I won but don't hurt people" with no affect isn't worth a bucket of snake piss.

But it’s different from actually supporting the violence, which I’ve seen no Republican do so far.

An Al Qaeda recruiter who never leaves camp or hurts someone directly is still to blame. You don't get to spend years radicalizing people and suddenly be outraged they're radicalized and insane. They need to stop the lying or they're knowingly encouraging more of this. 147 of them voted with hopes of maintaining this madness to further their own ambitions. They're all going to hell when they die.

I don’t think they actually wanted to incite violence though.

WHAT DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

You spend months telling people this election is the "last chance to save the country" and if Biden wins we'll be a socialist tyrannical dictatorship, then he wins and you say "THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN! WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!"

How do you think people are going to react to that?!

[Indy Texas]

Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

To be fair, pretty much every Republican has condemned the violence, just as how establishment Dems condemned BLM riots.

147 Republicans voted to object to the election based on the president's lies. They know his claims are and have always been completely fabricated and they've decided perpetuating the lies is worth more to them than defending and uniting the country. Those lies triggered the violence by Trump's supporters. He's radicalized them with lies that their country is being stolen from them, their culture is being stolen from them, their election is being stolen from them.

The lies are behind the violence and unless the Republican Party comes out and apologizes to the nation for breeding terrorism in the gullible to get votes, they're 100% still the pieces of crap to blame.

Saying "I still think I won but don't hurt people" with no affect isn't worth a bucket of snake piss.

But it’s different from actually supporting the violence, which I’ve seen no Republican do so far.

An Al Qaeda recruiter who never leaves camp or hurts someone directly is still to blame. You don't get to spend years radicalizing people and suddenly be outraged they're radicalized and insane. They need to stop the lying or they're knowingly encouraging more of this. 147 of them voted with hopes of maintaining this madness to further their own ambitions. They're all going to hell when they die.

I don’t think they actually wanted to incite violence though.

They're adults. They saw the violence happen. Even if they didn't want it go that far they still continued the behavior that made it happen. If they were naïve, that excuse was eradicated by the time the 147 traitors made that vote. It was criminally irresponsible and deliberate.

And none of them have the excuse that they believe the vote was truly stolen. They all know how elections work and none are trying to throw out congressional results where they won. They know Trump lost because his behavior turned out Democratic voters, but they're afraid his base won't vote for them in 2022 or 2024 without this commitment to the lies he's made them believe.

This isn’t me supporting the people opposing the certification of electoral votes- they should honestly resign immediately- but opposing the results doesn’t mean they actually support the violence.

If they opposed the certification, they were saying the results were illegitimate and the election was stolen.

And if the election was stolen, what do you expect "the masses" in the GOP to do if not try to do something about it?

[Indy Texas]

They’re wasn’t violence after the election itself or the meeting of the Electoral College, so it wasn’t unthinkable that they’re wouldn’t be violence this time.

"The bear didn't attack me the first two times I poked it. Surely it won't bite me if I poke it a third time!"

[Indy Texas]

I’m not saying they aren’t responsible for the violence, I’m saying that they didn’t actually intend for it to happen.

That they continued the lying which triggered the violence after the violence happened proves their personal power is more important to them than preventing the violence. Hawley made his objection intending for more violence because violence was now provably the outcome of such lies. He decided he'd rather have Trump supporters back him in 2024 or 2028, even if more Americans died.

Their hasn’t been additional violence after the session resumed, including after further objections were raised, so it shows violence wasn’t gaurunteed.

Are you mentally incompetent? I mean I saw the blue avatar.

Nobody is suggesting that lying is an arcane ritual which immediately summons redneck shock troops to smear feces on the walls. I'm saying it's radicalizing people and is leading the country in a direction toward further violence.

No s@%t it’s radicalizing people, but that doesn’t mean they actually condone the violence.

We can argue that their isn’t a real difference in effect, but I do believe there is a difference in the character of people.

That's like saying when some Saudi sheik who funded a radical Salafi madrassa that educated a bunch of people who went on to join al-Qaeda and commit terror acts, the Saudi sheik "doesn't actually condone the violence."

No. It doesn't work that way.

[Indy Texas]

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I'm 32 years old. My living experience with Republican governance is:

1. Donald Trump (riots, pandemic deaths, rampant corruption, attempts to overturn the results of an election that he lost)
2. George W. Bush (recession, war, civil liberties violations)

Do you mind explaining to me why I should have any confidence in Republicans' ability to do anything or be remotely close to positions of power ever?

What issues are so dear to you that you were willing to sign off on as decadent and depraved a man as Trump?

[Indy Texas]

Derrick Evans, the WV state legislator charged with being part of the coup attempt, has resigned from the WV House of Delegates.

Sort of ironic that a delegate from West Virginia tried to rebel against the US government.

[Indy Texas]

Feds arresting more of the losers who stormed the Capitol, including the stealing podium guy. They look less happy now.

https://twitter.com/WFLAJustin/status/1347910666317934592

8 On Your Side has learned Johnson is married to a local physician

I refuse to believe this

There was a big doxxing on Reddit and other sites. His wife is a doctor in the Sarasota area and she appears to have either been fired from or left her job as a result.

[Indy Texas]

The core Trump supporters who could afford to take time off and fly to DC are petite bourgeois, not the lumpen-proletariat.

[Indy Texas]

The clarifying part about this episode is that the Trump cult has in the past claimed that violence in DC was due to BLM and DC people instigating with Trump supporters.  Now they have no excuse.  It was just them. 

Oh you haven't heard?  This riot was started by Antifa agents posing as Trump supporters.

Except for the woman who was killed. She was a martyr of Trumpism. Everyone else was Antifa in disguise.

No, they've already disowned her and claimed she was a false flag plant.