Obama vs. Bush43......on Israel

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Please explain to me the substantive differences between the two, becaue honestly I don't see the differences.

I would hardly call either of them a true friend of Israel........agree?

[Franzl]

I'd call them both "true friends of Israel", to be honest....not that I consider that a negative thing in most cases.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I'd call them both "true friends of Israel", to be honest....not that I consider that a negative thing in most cases.

Maybe I just read too much into things........it seems to me they're both sick of Israel causing a rucus on a continual basis.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A true friend tells you when you're being mindlessly stupid.

[Antonio the Sixth]

A true friend tells you when you're being mindlessly stupid.

^^^

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

A true friend tells you when you're being mindlessly stupid.

^^^

Yay too, I had told myself that I would have pulled it out in the thread about the boats if I had an occasion.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Please explain to me the substantive differences between the two, becaue honestly I don't see the differences.

I would hardly call either of them a true friend of Israel........agree?

Indeed, "true puppet of Israel" would be a more apt description in both cases.

[Bo]

Bush Jr.: Supported Israeli settlement construction, Opposed pressuring Israel to negotiate with the Palestinian leadership or make large concessions, Supported Israel responding to terrorism in any way that it considered necessary

Obama: Opposes Israeli settlement construction, Supports pressuring Israel to negotiate and make large concessions. Also, supports division of Jerusalem. Supports Israeli restraint in response to terrorism.

[Derek]

I can see why Obama would want Israel to concede some things. They're friends of the U.S.

[Хahar 🤔]

No real difference. Both condone everything.