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« on: August 19, 2022, 09:54:12 PM »

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/0zf87045

Democrats

Gavin Newsom 13%
Bernie Sanders 13%
Kamala Harris 10%
Pete Buttigeig 7%
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 7%
Elizabeth Warren 6%
Hillary Clinton 4%
Stacey Abrams 3%
Amy Klobuchar 3%
Cory Booker 2%
Michael Bloomberg 2%
Gretchen Whitmer 1%
J. B Pritzker 0%
Jared Polis 0%
Roy Cooper 0%
Phil Murphy 0%
Other 9%
Undecided 19%

Republican Primary

Donald Trump 38%
Ron DeSantis 27%
Mike Pence 7%
Nikki Haley 3%
Mike Pompeo 2%
Ted Cruz 2%
Marco Rubio 1%
Larry Hogan 1%
Tim Scott 0%
Glenn Youngkin 0%
Tom Cotton 0%
Chris Christie 0%
Other 4%
Undecided 14%

Republican Primary-Without Trump

Ron DeSantis 53%
Mike Pence 9%
Nikki Haley 4%
Mike Pompeo 4%
Ted Cruz 3%
Marco Rubio 2%
Larry Hogan 1%
Tim Scott 1%
Glenn Youngkin 0%
Tom Cotton 0%
Chris Christie 0%
Other 5%
Undecided 17%
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2022, 04:43:49 PM »

It won't matter Biden is running
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2022, 09:26:34 PM »

The poll also includes a scenario in which Newsom doesn’t run.  In which case, it’s:

Sanders 15%
Harris 12%
Buttigieg 8%
Ocasio-Cortez 7%
Warren 7%
Clinton 5%
Abrams 4%
Klobuchar 4%
Booker 3%
Bloomberg 2%
Pritzker 2%
Whitmer 1%
Polis, Cooper, Murphy 0%
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2022, 01:38:20 AM »

Harris is the sitting VP and still losing to Bernie in California, you love to see it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2022, 02:04:07 AM »

The poll also includes a scenario in which Newsom doesn’t run.  In which case, it’s:

Sanders 15%
Harris 12%
Buttigieg 8%
Ocasio-Cortez 7%
Warren 7%
Clinton 5%
Abrams 4%
Klobuchar 4%
Booker 3%
Bloomberg 2%
Pritzker 2%
Whitmer 1%
Polis, Cooper, Murphy 0%


Congrats to Harris on getting a whopping 12% in California as a Californian against a bunch of candidates from east of the Mississippi.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2022, 03:28:43 AM »

The poll also includes a scenario in which Newsom doesn’t run.  In which case, it’s:

Sanders 15%
Harris 12%
Buttigieg 8%
Ocasio-Cortez 7%
Warren 7%
Clinton 5%
Abrams 4%
Klobuchar 4%
Booker 3%
Bloomberg 2%
Pritzker 2%
Whitmer 1%
Polis, Cooper, Murphy 0%


Congrats to Harris on getting a whopping 12% in California as a Californian against a bunch of candidates from east of the Mississippi.


Lol Biden is running unless D's lose the Senate not the H on Eday , James Carville said that already Biden is running these polls are useless they won't be a D primary
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2022, 05:36:54 AM »

Harris is the sitting VP and still losing to Bernie in California, you love to see it.

Sanders has more name recognition and stands for a unique brand of ideology compared to other candidates. He isn't interested in running. He also has no chance.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2022, 09:37:38 AM »

Harris is the sitting VP and still losing to Bernie in California, you love to see it.

Sanders has more name recognition
and stands for a unique brand of ideology compared to other candidates. He isn't interested in running. He also has no chance.

Ugh, that's more than just a hot take. Harris represented CA in the senate for 4 years, was the state's AG and is now the sitting VP. Very doubtful Sanders has more name rec. Especially since we're talking about a Dem electorate here.

If anything, just confirms that's she's struggling. Poll is not much of value anyway, since they polled so many names that won't run. Seriously, we still aren't done with HRC?
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2022, 11:32:38 AM »
« Edited: August 23, 2022, 11:35:55 AM by Laki »

Harris is the sitting VP and still losing to Bernie in California, you love to see it.

Sanders has more name recognition
and stands for a unique brand of ideology compared to other candidates. He isn't interested in running. He also has no chance.

Ugh, that's more than just a hot take. Harris represented CA in the senate for 4 years, was the state's AG and is now the sitting VP. Very doubtful Sanders has more name rec. Especially since we're talking about a Dem electorate here.

If anything, just confirms that's she's struggling. Poll is not much of value anyway, since they polled so many names that won't run. Seriously, we still aren't done with HRC?

I don't think that's a hot take. Sanders probably is nation-wide the second most well known Democrat (excluding the Clintons and the Obamas). I truly think Sanders has more name recognition than Harris even in California.

CA also has quite a lot of progressive voters, and with Sanders on the ballot and him theoretically being younger, he would be far more popular than Harris, especially in a divided field. Sanders has more ability to unite the progressive wing wheras competition in a centrist / mainstream liberal lane would be higher to clear the field. But I do think eventually it would be 50/50 or even benefit to mainstream liberal lane, especially if Sanders doesn't run (or concerning his age, which is an issue), because Sanders has crossover appeal and more appeal to other wings of Democrats than most progressives. Nina Turner wouldn't get close to Sanders' numbers, for example, and would merely be token position, being in trouble of getting momentum.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2022, 01:15:11 PM »

You can look at polls that include favorability #s for both Harris and Sanders to compare name recognition.  E.g., in this YouGov poll from April/May, 94% of Democrats have an opinion of Harris, and 92% of Democrats have an opinion of Sanders:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=441776.msg8596435#msg8596435

And that’s for the nation as a whole, rather than just California.  I’d assume that Harris would have at least marginally better name recognition in California.  But I’d still guess that the name recognition gap between them, if there is one, is too small to matter.  Anyone paying even a little attention to politics knows who both of them are.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2022, 04:21:26 PM »

Harris is the sitting VP and still losing to Bernie in California, you love to see it.

Sanders has more name recognition and stands for a unique brand of ideology compared to other candidates. He isn't interested in running. He also has no chance.

Sanders has higher name recognition than the Vice President in her own home state? Come on, man!

I definitely do not expect him to run again. If he did he'd probably have at least as good a chance as most of these people though.
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