DC Unrest Megathread

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

https://twitter.com/mepfuller/status/1347072023005163522?s=21

lmao, I’m not a small fry, I’m like 5’10 and 180 lbs of stockiness, and you can see Allred dwarfs me, Allred deffo would have won

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Well Harris, you smarmy piece of s***, you and your ilk are Liars.

I would have paid big money to see former NFL player Allred smash Harris's face open like a rotten grapefruit with one punch on the house floor.

Encouraging violence is not the answer. You're better than this, Badger.

Is he? Badger's grown on me in recent months, but he's always been a bit of an internet tough guy.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/mepfuller/status/1347072023005163522?s=21

lmao, I’m not a small fry, I’m like 5’10 and 180 lbs of stockiness, and you can see Allred dwarfs me, Allred deffo would have won

[img width=465

Well Harris, you smarmy piece of s***, you and your ilk are Liars.

I would have paid big money to see former NFL player Allred smash Harris's face open like a rotten grapefruit with one punch on the house floor.

Encouraging violence is not the answer. You're better than this, Badger.

Is he? Badger's grown on me in recent months, but he's always been a bit of an internet tough guy.

I, for one, wish I could take off my belt and put each of these heathens over my knee.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/mepfuller/status/1347072023005163522?s=21

lmao, I’m not a small fry, I’m like 5’10 and 180 lbs of stockiness, and you can see Allred dwarfs me, Allred deffo would have won

[img width=465

Well Harris, you smarmy piece of s***, you and your ilk are Liars.

I would have paid big money to see former NFL player Allred smash Harris's face open like a rotten grapefruit with one punch on the house floor.

Encouraging violence is not the answer. You're better than this, Badger.

Fwiw. From reading this statement I took it that Paris was instigating the fight with Allred. Some slight to his honor or the like, blah blah blah.

In which case, if Harris wants to pick a fight over being called a liar when he undoubtedly is, I fully salute Congressman Allred seeking to end that fight picked by Harris most expeditiously and thoroughly.

TL;dr version, fighting back in self-defense is not inciting violence, and it's frankly long overdue.

[Badger]

I just heard Tim Ryan being interviewed on our local NPR station. He is of course the chair of the committee that oversees the Capitol Police Department. He had words of praise for the Department saying they were simply outmanned, but castigated the fact that the Capitol Police were over also unprepared and understaffed given all the advance warning of incitement that Donald Trump has committed over the last several months.

What shocked me was news I had not yet her. Reportedly there are 40 to 50 officers injured out of this, 15 of whom were hospitalized, one of whom is in critical condition after being beaten with pipes!

[Coolface Sock #42069]

I just heard Tim Ryan being interviewed on our local NPR station. He is of course the chair of the committee that oversees the Capitol Police Department. He had words of praise for the Department saying they were simply outmanned, but castigated the fact that the Capitol Police were over also unprepared and understaffed given all the advance warning of incitement that Donald Trump has committed over the last several months.

What shocked me was news I had not yet her. Reportedly there are 40 to 50 officers injured out of this, 15 of whom were hospitalized, one of whom is in critical condition after being beaten with pipes!

How they could be so unprepared is beyond me. Handling things like this is their job.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I just heard Tim Ryan being interviewed on our local NPR station. He is of course the chair of the committee that oversees the Capitol Police Department. He had words of praise for the Department saying they were simply outmanned, but castigated the fact that the Capitol Police were over also unprepared and understaffed given all the advance warning of incitement that Donald Trump has committed over the last several months.

What shocked me was news I had not yet her. Reportedly there are 40 to 50 officers injured out of this, 15 of whom were hospitalized, one of whom is in critical condition after being beaten with pipes!

I heard Jim McGovern on my morning show a few hours ago. He was apparently presiding when the House had to flee, Pelosi having been ushered out a few minutes before. He seems to be all in on Omar's impeachment and/or 25th push.

[Mr. Illini]

I guess the fundamental question is what would have happened if this had been the white house?

I think the question is: What if this had been well-organized? If that had been the case, it realistically could have been a successful coup d’état. Democracy came frighteningly close to breaking down.

This is exactly right. What if this had been an organized, violent attack? What if these people had opened fire? Exactly how much would they have been able to do?

[QAnonKelly]

I didn't realize Andy Harris tried to start a fight with Colin Allred last night. Yeah bro, starting a fight with a former linebacker who's 25 years younger than you is really smart.

[Hnv1]

I guess the fundamental question is what would have happened if this had been the white house?

I think the question is: What if this had been well-organized? If that had been the case, it realistically could have been a successful coup d’état. Democracy came frighteningly close to breaking down.

This is exactly right. What if this had been an organized, violent attack? What if these people had opened fire? Exactly how much would they have been able to do?

I'm actually surprised how little fire power they had considering who these people are. Well if they were armed it would have required a serious military intervention and Congress maybe meeting elsewhere for a while. Question is, would Trump have allowed the armed forces to take a bigger role? or would it fall on democratic governors from around invading DC?

[beaver2.0]

I didn't realize Andy Harris tried to start a fight with Colin Allred last night. Yeah bro, starting a fight with a former linebacker who's 25 years younger than you is really smart.

To be fair he was a Titans linebacker.

[Badger]

I guess the fundamental question is what would have happened if this had been the white house?

I think the question is: What if this had been well-organized? If that had been the case, it realistically could have been a successful coup d’état. Democracy came frighteningly close to breaking down.

This is exactly right. What if this had been an organized, violent attack? What if these people had opened fire? Exactly how much would they have been able to do?

By all accounts, this was absolutely an organized attack. This was no more spontaneous than 9/11. And worse than the Capitol Police, the FBI and similar domestic counter-intelligence / terrorism units were caught with their pants down around their ankles to wear an attack involving literally thousands of known violent extremist could be organized on mass like this without them picking it up.

Some heads need to roll at the FBI and / or NSA.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1347207878801846276

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/CliffAYoung/status/1347192288800370688

[Inmate Trump]

https://twitter.com/CliffAYoung/status/1347192288800370688

Should be much higher, but at least it’s a majority.

[Stranger in a strange land]

https://twitter.com/CliffAYoung/status/1347192288800370688

Frightening that it's only 51%

[Gass3268]

Trump has been band by Facebook indefinitely. I imagine Twitter will follow their lead.

https://twitter.com/Kantrowitz/status/1347209358531198979?s=20

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/CliffAYoung/status/1347192288800370688

Frightening that it's only 51%

36% of Americans-obviously the most hardcore elements of Trump's base-are opposed to his removal from office. That is alarming, but not surprising, unfortunately. It matches what has traditionally been the floor for major-party support in previous presidential elections; Landon, Goldwater, and McGovern, for example, did not drop below that percentage in their failed runs.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/CliffAYoung/status/1347192288800370688

Frightening that it's only 51%

You misspelled pathetic.

[W]

https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1347207878801846276

Forget resigning from being Trump's envoy to the Palm Beach dogcatcher, this here takes serious courage.

[Joe Biden 2024]

New Jersey and Delaware are sending parts of their National Guards to D.C.

[Torie]

The attack was openly planned on the internet for weeks, yet the police seemed as surprised as I that it happened. Heads will probably need to roll, and the protocols changed so that in connection with any large demonstration near the White House or Capitol, if it suddenly turns into an attack, it will have no chance of getting to first base, much less succeeding. And now we find that explosives were placed here and there.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/07/capitol-attack-was-planned-openly-online-for-weeks-police-still-werent-ready/?sh=5ee2ab7d76e2

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/CliffAYoung/status/1347192288800370688

Frightening that it's only 51%

36% of Americans-obviously the most hardcore elements of Trump's base-are opposed to his removal from office. That is alarming, but not surprising, unfortunately. It matches what has traditionally been the floor for major-party support in previous presidential elections; Landon, Goldwater, and McGovern, for example, did not drop below that percentage in their failed runs.

Landon, Goldwater, and McGovern did not actively Insight violent resistance and take over the American government when they lost their elections! If the world had any justice in it, this number should be in the single digits. Hell, even Nixon's approval rating trunk as low as 24% during the height of Watergate which, as awful an abuse of Presidential Power that was, pales in comparison to what Trump has done.

Enough talk about so-called polarisation. Polarization implies there are two equally and increasingly Divergent opposites. The Republican Party has been responsible from 90 to 99% of the growing extremism and one sided on their part polarization in this country.

Oh, what's that you say? A minority faction of the Democrats supports medicare-for-all and a vague environmental proposal called The Green New Deal? Shock and horror! Such radicalism! Come back to me when our party has a plurality support for an attempted violent takeover of Congress and stopping a lawful presidential election! THAT'S extremism! And the self-identified Democratic socialists that comprise about a tenth of the Democratic Congressional Delegation doesn't. Remotely. Begin. To. Compare!

[Sir Mohamed]

The attack was openly planned on the internet for weeks, yet the police seemed as surprised as I that it happened. Heads will probably need to roll, and the protocols changed so that in connection with any large demonstration near the White House or Capitol, if it suddenly turns into an attack, it will have no chance of getting to first base, much less succeeding. And now we find that explosives were placed here and there.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/07/capitol-attack-was-planned-openly-online-for-weeks-police-still-werent-ready/?sh=5ee2ab7d76e2

I'm not a lawyer, but this smells like treason. Biden's Justice Dept should bring such charges forward.

[Red Velvet]

Trump has been band by Facebook indefinitely. I imagine Twitter will follow their lead.

https://twitter.com/Kantrowitz/status/1347209358531198979?s=20

Zuckerberg can eat sh**t. NOW is the time that it got too dangerous for democracy?

What about other countries where these strategies (some even worse) are constantly used by far-right leaders? Are they gonna do something about this too or is the special treatment just with US when they’re about to have a rupture with democracy?

Honestly, go f*** yourself Zucky. It’s not one miserable account that needs to be blocked, but YOUR entire sh**tty social media, which has been by far the worst of all when it comes to dealing with the spread of fake news and political radicalization. End Facebook immediately.

[DINGO Joe]

I just heard Tim Ryan being interviewed on our local NPR station. He is of course the chair of the committee that oversees the Capitol Police Department. He had words of praise for the Department saying they were simply outmanned, but castigated the fact that the Capitol Police were over also unprepared and understaffed given all the advance warning of incitement that Donald Trump has committed over the last several months.

What shocked me was news I had not yet her. Reportedly there are 40 to 50 officers injured out of this, 15 of whom were hospitalized, one of whom is in critical condition after being beaten with pipes!

How they could be so unprepared is beyond me. Handling things like this is their job.

Of course, the part I was surprised about was the fact that the DC National Guard hadn't been activated.  I naturally assumed they'd be there because you see them for other protests, but it turn out (at least under Trump) they're only called out in advance for black protestors.