Pacific Supreme Council Thread

[CatoMinor]

I'm sorry, but as long as the region wastes its money willingly on things like elective friggan abortions, I refuse to vote to raise taxes one cent. We cannot complain about being short on cash to cover things when we a shoveling it away on stupid things.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

To clarify, do you seriously want debate opened on those bills Fuzzy?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

To clarify, do you seriously want debate opened on those bills Fuzzy?

Only the first one.  lol 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I just can't see any sin taxes getting through the Assembly.

Income/estate taxes on the wealthy perhaps?

Which brings me back to, why are we raising taxes in economic bad times? On top of the monstrosity in the senate right now we would have to change the title to "Chase those Bourgeoisie pigs and the business to Switzerland! Act"

Maybe, but it's either that or cutting goodies like transportation and local health care subsidies. And average CEO profits have risen from 70 times the minimum wage to 800 in the last 30 years, so maybe....

Or we could just run a deficit. I think that's allowed.

All right, I guess. 

[CatoMinor]

I just can't see any sin taxes getting through the Assembly.

Income/estate taxes on the wealthy perhaps?

Which brings me back to, why are we raising taxes in economic bad times? On top of the monstrosity in the senate right now we would have to change the title to "Chase those Bourgeoisie pigs and the business to Switzerland! Act"

Maybe, but it's either that or cutting goodies like transportation and local health care subsidies. And average CEO profits have risen from 70 times the minimum wage to 800 in the last 30 years, so maybe....

Or we could just run a deficit. I think that's allowed.

All right, I guess. 

Or we could cut spending where we have no business spending to begin with......

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I just can't see any sin taxes getting through the Assembly.

Income/estate taxes on the wealthy perhaps?

Which brings me back to, why are we raising taxes in economic bad times? On top of the monstrosity in the senate right now we would have to change the title to "Chase those Bourgeoisie pigs and the business to Switzerland! Act"

Maybe, but it's either that or cutting goodies like transportation and local health care subsidies. And average CEO profits have risen from 70 times the minimum wage to 800 in the last 30 years, so maybe....

Or we could just run a deficit. I think that's allowed.

All right, I guess. 

Or we could cut spending where we have no business spending to begin with......

Like what?

[CatoMinor]

Like what?

I'm sorry, but as long as the region wastes its money willingly on things like elective friggan abortions, I refuse to vote to raise taxes one cent. We cannot complain about being short on cash to cover things when we a shoveling it away on stupid things.

That would be nice place to start. I'm sure we can find others if we look

[RI]

Like what?

I'm sorry, but as long as the region wastes its money willingly on things like elective friggan abortions, I refuse to vote to raise taxes one cent. We cannot complain about being short on cash to cover things when we a shoveling it away on stupid things.

That would be nice place to start. I'm sure we can find others if we look

That's nice Jbrase, and I agree, but it just isn't happening unless we can come up with at least four yes votes in the Assembly.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Like what?

I'm sorry, but as long as the region wastes its money willingly on things like elective friggan abortions, I refuse to vote to raise taxes one cent. We cannot complain about being short on cash to cover things when we a shoveling it away on stupid things.

That would be nice place to start. I'm sure we can find others if we look

Elective abortions cover many 1st trimester abortions as well, when the fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat.  And abortion shouldn't make up a very large fraction of the budget anyways.  It doesn't really make sense on fiscal or moral grounds to cut all publicly funded abortions.

[CatoMinor]

Like what?

I'm sorry, but as long as the region wastes its money willingly on things like elective friggan abortions, I refuse to vote to raise taxes one cent. We cannot complain about being short on cash to cover things when we a shoveling it away on stupid things.

That would be nice place to start. I'm sure we can find others if we look

Elective abortions cover many 1st trimester abortions as well, when the fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat.  And abortion shouldn't make up a very large fraction of the budget anyways.  It doesn't really make sense on fiscal or moral grounds to cut all publicly funded abortions.

Key word was elective.
As much as I want to stop it all, I know certain people in the region would have a hissy fit if we stopped subsidizing murder. But does really matter how much? Wasteful spending is still wasteful spending. But like I said, we could probably find better examples and more places to cut if we look through the wiki.

[Хahar 🤔]

I think it's fairly clear that the Council is well to the right of the region in general, although I'm not sure why that's the case.

[bgwah]

I think it's fairly clear that the Council is well to the right of the region in general, although I'm not sure why that's the case.

A lot of us (myself, Ebowed, Marokai) are currently being taken up by other offices.

[RI]

I think it's fairly clear that the Council is well to the right of the region in general, although I'm not sure why that's the case.

It's true, but there's not a whole lot further to the left that the region could go without completely leaving the realm of things that are normally discussed in North American politics. I'm not opposed to taking up such proposals, but it seems that the region has gone so far to the left that most things that we could pass would either be more conservative or libertarian or communitarian than the region is now.

I'm not necessarily saying this in a negative way, for the record. From my own perspective, I like having a lot (those certainly not all, obviously) of the leftist economic policies that we have. Therefore, it would only be natural for me to address the areas where I believe the region is most out of line, in my opinion.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I think it's fairly clear that the Council is well to the right of the region in general, although I'm not sure why that's the case.

Which only means that both houses have to learn how to compromise (*shudder at the thought* )

[Oakvale]

I think it's fairly clear that the Council is well to the right of the region in general, although I'm not sure why that's the case.

Well there were only four candidates, and two of them are arguably to the right of the region in general, so...

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I know this bill may be controversial to some of our members, but I have to try:

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lol  

[CatoMinor]

I support his, but I was un-aware they couldn't already

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I support his, but I was un-aware they couldn't already

I couldn't find anything in our statute concerning this, so I just assumed it wasn't. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

There was an act to ban homophobia in the public and private sectors, but they never mentioned marriage specifically.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Anti-Discrimination_Act

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I'll give 24 hours for any other bills to be proposed before I start debate.  If this doesn't get through the Assembly I will eat my hat.

[CatoMinor]

I introduce this

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[Ebowed]

The Pacific does not have a same-sex marriage law because marriage is a federal issue, and the federal government recognizes only civil unions, regardless of gender.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

CRAAAAAP.

[bgwah]

You been watching the newest season of Big Love, Jbrase?

[CatoMinor]

You been watching the newest season of Big Love, Jbrase?

Lol, no. As much as the Mormons set themselves up for jokes, The Sodom and Gomorrah Act is nothing but bullying.