Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Rowan]

The legislation regarding motorcycles is awfully draconian.

That was my problem with it.

[Rowan]

Is number 1 of Franzl's bill really necessary? Can't we just have 2 and 3?

[Rowan]

Too vague. The word "regulate" needs to be more thoroughly defined.

[Rowan]

Too vague. The word "regulate" needs to be more thoroughly defined.

Why? The point is that the government has almost no role in party regulation. All this legislation can do is formalize avenues that parties may choose to use. For example, it has never been clear what power parties have to remove members. They can do it, but does the SoFA have to do anything? And can the person sign back up to the party?

The bill gives parties discretion and simply provides directive to the SoFA, which is exactly what it should do.

Question, do American political parties have the power to remove members?

[Rowan]

Well, either way, I don't believe parties should be able to kick out members. If someone wants to be a member of any party they want, then they should be able to, in my opinion.

[Rowan]

Please do not withdraw it. I'd like to amend it to eliminate a minimum age entirely.

For gods sake, why?

Why not? It's a victimless crime.

Ah no its not. I consider the fools that submit themselves to being photographed in such a way are victims. The idiot who looks at it is also the victim. Just because people want to do something doesn't mean we should let them if its "victimless". I seem to remember a bill not two long ago where the same arguement I made here was being made by my opponents on this.

And why should a 12 year old boy not be allowed to look at nude women (or men) if he wants to? He or his parents should be making these decisions, not the state.

I would support a bill that would just keep them from buying it. If their parents think they can have it, they can buy it for them. I'm not sure if you should make looking at it "illegal" though.

Well I would prefer to make all porn illegal for everyone, but thats not practical wih Senate lacking moral fiber. For now illegalisng the sale to minors would be a good start.

Why settle for that? Let's ban sex outright.

I'll compromise with banning sodomy.

[Rowan]

I will never support that kind of bill, but I'll wait until it comes to the floor before we discuss more of it.

[Rowan]

Right To Life Bill

1. This bill shall make it illegal for any woman to have an abortion that results in the termination of a pregnancy.

2. Any woman discovered to have had an illegal abortion, shall be subjected to up to a $10,000 fine and/or 3 years in jail.

3. Any doctor known to have performed said illegal abortion, shall immediately have his/her license revoked, be barred from practicing medicine for life, and face a $20,000 fine and/or 5 years in jail.

Second, not even a clause to take into account the health of the mother?

That could be added potentially, if requested.

[Rowan]

Yank, you just said you'd only support an amended version of the bill, I'm not in favor of making loopholes like rape and mother's health that can be used as justification for any abortion

What happened to regional rights?

Stop trying to portray the RPP as something it is not. When someone holds the belief that an act is murder, where is the regional rights involved in that? Is the Midwest allowed to create its own murder policy? Then why is Sewer Socialist still trolling this place? If someone holds the conviction that an act is murder, there would be no reason for that person to feel it is up to regional governments. CUT THE PROPAGANDA

Dude, your habit is unhealthy.

How many times a day do you think he blows DWTL under his computer desk?

[Rowan]

Funny to see that comment coming from RowanBrandon of all people, I wish I could show Atlasia how you spent the last months being DWTL's bitch.

Uhh what?

Please share.

[Rowan]

Voting Reform Bill of 2009

1. A person is not eligible to become a registered member of Atlasia until they have been a member of the Atlas Forum proper for 6 months.

2. All current registered members of Atlasia will not be affected by this change.

Why?

Well, in America you have to be 18 years old, so why not have there be an age limit here?

[Rowan]

Well I must say, this would be a good way to get rid of those zombies that sign up, spam to 50 posts, and register to vote. But then again, most people are just talk about "zombie reform" and are scared to do anything about it.

[Rowan]

I love the idea, though I think six months is a bit too long. Two or three? I also like PS's ideas.

Yeah six months is probably too long. I'd compromise a shorter amount. I just wanted to get the idea out there.

[Rowan]

What is the point of this legislation?

[Rowan]

The Strategic Registration Amendment

1. Article V, Section 2, Clause 7 is hereby amended to read: "Persons may only change their State of registration once every 180 days."

I strongly support this legislation.

[Rowan]

The Strategic Registration Amendment

1. Article V, Section 2, Clause 7 is hereby amended to read: "Persons may only change their State of registration once every 180 days."

I strongly support this legislation.

     Yes, I urge all Senators to vote in favor of this amendment. Perhaps an exception should be included for moves in real life.

Is that really enforceable though? Unless you mean by matching IP addresses to locations.

[Rowan]

Yes, the stricter the limit the better.

[Rowan]

I think I fall on the ticket side of things.

[Rowan]

How about a ban on office-holding of those on the TrollList?

[Rowan]

How about a ban on office-holding of those on the TrollList?

No.

Oh it's cause your buddies are on there, I get it.

[Rowan]

I didn't even know this thread existed.

[Rowan]

I like the PM's by the way. If I forgot to sign in on the site a day, the e-mail that I get is nice to remind me.