Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'm not pretending we don't have problems, I would just contend they're not as severe as our real-world counterpart. Action needs to be taken, I simply don't know what action to take.

The reason the Senate hates dealing with the economy folks.

I hate dealing with it too. Go figure.

I'm not pretending we don't have problems, I would just contend they're not as severe as our real-world counterpart. Action needs to be taken, I simply don't know what action to take.

I have consistently asked that those with superior knowledge of economics point out where I make faults. But, of course, simply saying I'm wrong doesn't help. When Yank thought I was wrong, he gave me links and thoughts, etc. which influenced a number of articles and resulted in better info. You are welcome to do the same.

And you are correct that I have not reviewed every piece of legislation the Senate has passed. This is why I requested you point out how the US and Atlasia differ. A simple response goes a long way (and do try to keep it simple because your long posts tend to confuse me ).

lol


Why don't you formulate a plan for where you want to take the economy. Keep it secret if you want but have a general plan of where to take it. I assume you saw my article predicting a crash in Oil Prices in the NWA, right?

[Хahar 🤔]

We need a PPT election now.

[Fritz]

We need a PPT election now.

No, we don't.  We just need Bacon King to step in and take over.  He did such a great job before.

If the rest of the Senate will agree, I would be okay with just letting BK preside over the remainder of the 33rd Senate.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm not sure if we have to have a PPT election, but if we do, I suppose that's fine. I'm fine either having a PPT race and simply having BK take over for the rest of the time.

Although it is tempting to run for PPT again. You all deserve a second chance at making the right decision.

[Fritz]

Actually, I kind of think the Senate rules should be amended so that we don't even have a PPT- just make it the Vice-President's job.  Give the VP something to do, and it would make the elections for VP a little more meaningful.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We need a PPT election now.

Talk to BK.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Actually, I kind of think the Senate rules should be amended so that we don't even have a PPT- just make it the Vice-President's job.  Give the VP something to do, and it would make the elections for VP a little more meaningful.

I think we should keep the PPT.

[Hash]

Regional & Local Fiscal Relief Act

1. The $100 billion to be distributed by region as per Section 4 (a.) of F.L. 32-13 (2009 Atlasian Relief and Recovery Act) is to be distributed between the regions as follows on the basis of budget severity and unemployment rates:
a. $30 billion to the Mideast
b. $22 billion to the Pacific
c. $22 billion to the Southeast
d. $15 billion to the Midwest
e. $11 billion to the Northeast

2. The Regional Legislatures of the various regions shall be responsible for the allocation and distribution of funds allocated to their regions.

3. Upon the event of a Region rejecting funds outlined under the 2009 Atlasian Economic Relief and Recovery Act and the Regional & Local Fiscal Relief Act, the federal government itself shall, where possible, conduct or fund infrastructure projects independent of the regional government, and distribute the rejected funds specifically for that region equally among the remaining regions.

Just because there was no action on the allocation of the 100 billion allocated to regions by FL 32-13, somebody needed to get the ball rolling, it isn't perfect and I'm very open to amendments on this one. The distribution is unequal because I want to give more funds to struggling regions (based on the GM's reports).

[Bacon King]

We need a PPT election now.

No, we don't.  We just need Bacon King to step in and take over.  He did such a great job before.

If the rest of the Senate will agree, I would be okay with just letting BK preside over the remainder of the 33rd Senate.

First off, Senator, thank you for your kind words

I have started the PPT election process because the current Senate rules require a PPT to be elected immediately following the resignation of the current PPT. The rules also prevent the VP from directly running the Senate except when the PPT is absent.

I agree with you that a PPT is not always necessary- I think the option to elect one should exist, but I don't think it should be mandatory. I also think the VP should be allowed to run things to an extent even when a PPT is present.

I'd support it if anyone were to change any of this.

[Јas]

We need a PPT election now.

No, we don't.  We just need Bacon King to step in and take over.  He did such a great job before.

If the rest of the Senate will agree, I would be okay with just letting BK preside over the remainder of the 33rd Senate.

First off, Senator, thank you for your kind words

I have started the PPT election process because the current Senate rules require a PPT to be elected immediately following the resignation of the current PPT. The rules also prevent the VP from directly running the Senate except when the PPT is absent.

I agree with you that a PPT is not always necessary- I think the option to elect one should exist, but I don't think it should be mandatory. I also think the VP should be allowed to run things to an extent even when a PPT is present.

I'd support it if anyone were to change any of this.

As a matter of precedent, there have been a number of VPs who did actively work with the PPT in helping keep Senate business moving along. IMO, it's a matter for the PPT and VP to decide themselves how they wish to work together.

[Marokai Backbeat]

And I'm sure BK and I will have a lovely working relationship if I'm so lucky as to be elected PPT.

[Bacon King]

We need a PPT election now.

No, we don't.  We just need Bacon King to step in and take over.  He did such a great job before.

If the rest of the Senate will agree, I would be okay with just letting BK preside over the remainder of the 33rd Senate.

First off, Senator, thank you for your kind words

I have started the PPT election process because the current Senate rules require a PPT to be elected immediately following the resignation of the current PPT. The rules also prevent the VP from directly running the Senate except when the PPT is absent.

I agree with you that a PPT is not always necessary- I think the option to elect one should exist, but I don't think it should be mandatory. I also think the VP should be allowed to run things to an extent even when a PPT is present.

I'd support it if anyone were to change any of this.

As a matter of precedent, there have been a number of VPs who did actively work with the PPT in helping keep Senate business moving along. IMO, it's a matter for the PPT and VP to decide themselves how they wish to work together.

I'd love to be more active, of course, but Senate Regulations specifically say I can't do many things unless the PPT misses a deadline or is away.

[Јas]

Just to note that I'll be away for a few days - probably until Thursday.
Not sure whether I'll have any net access.

[Fritz]

Teenage Liberation Act

All laws containing an age requirement or limit between the ages of 15 and 21 shall have that requirement or limit changed to the age of 14.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. 

[DownWithTheLeft]

Teenage Liberation Act

All laws containing an age requirement or limit between the ages of 15 and 21 shall have that requirement or limit changed to the age of 14.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. 

Not that I have a problem with this obviously, but would this include the purchase of firearms?

[Rowan]

What is the point of this legislation?

[Fritz]

It's pretty simple- anyone over 14 is now an adult.  Yes, firearms are included, as well as drinking, smoking, driving, being in porn, sexual consent, having a job, leaving home and supporting yourself (your parents could kick you out too, if they wanted to), joining the military or being drafted, suing or being sued, etc. etc. etc.  I contend that if 14 year olds are mature enough to look at porn unrestrained, they have the maturity for all of these other things as well.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Wow, 14 year olds in porn.  That is a tad creepy, although maybe not illegal.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Wow, 14 year olds in porn.  That is a tad creepy, although maybe not illegal.

Not only in porn. Considering prostitution is legal in Atlasia this bill would mean we'd have fourteen-year-olds selling sex.

Obviously this bill is taking things a bit too far

I'm asuming this is to make a political statement, kind of like when Anthony Weiner proposed we get rid of Medicare to prove Goverment run Healthcare isn't all that bad.

 

 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You know what I am going to join them too. Nothing is okay till we have 14 years running down the street with AK-47s, being in pornography, drug trafficking, and using, drinking, smoking, serving in the military. Who cares the brains aren't fully developed and these thinks can do great damage. Who cares what bad effects this will have because guess what, they will do it all anyway so we should not even, not even make an attempt to stop. Hello Anarchy, here we come.


This is sarcasm of course.

[MaxQue]

You know what I am going to join them too. Nothing is okay till we have 14 years running down the street with AK-47s, being in pornography, drug trafficking, and using, drinking, smoking, serving in the military. Who cares the brains aren't fully developed and these thinks can do great damage. Who cares what bad effects this will have because guess what, they will do it all anyway so we should not even, not even make an attempt to stop. Hello Anarchy, here we come.


This is sarcasm of course.

You know than I am opposed to all that junk. I voted for the first bill only because the law is unenforceable. Nobody ever showed us how to make that law enforceable. If someone had, I probably voted against the bill.

[Sbane]

It's pretty simple- anyone over 14 is now an adult.  Yes, firearms are included, as well as drinking, smoking, driving, being in porn, sexual consent, having a job, leaving home and supporting yourself (your parents could kick you out too, if they wanted to), joining the military or being drafted, suing or being sued, etc. etc. etc.  I contend that if 14 year olds are mature enough to look at porn unrestrained, they have the maturity for all of these other things as well.

Being in porn? Prostitution? Drinking? Smoking? Are you insane? You don't see a difference between just watching some porn and these activities?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It's pretty simple- anyone over 14 is now an adult.  Yes, firearms are included, as well as drinking, smoking, driving, being in porn, sexual consent, having a job, leaving home and supporting yourself (your parents could kick you out too, if they wanted to), joining the military or being drafted, suing or being sued, etc. etc. etc.  I contend that if 14 year olds are mature enough to look at porn unrestrained, they have the maturity for all of these other things as well.

Being in porn? Prostitution? Drinking? Smoking? Are you insane? You don't see a difference between just watching some porn and these activities?

Why is Fritz insane? Are you insane? Everytime I take a postion, Fritz takes a slightly different one, both of which disagree with you; We are insane for taking a different position from you. When did you get sole monopolization of the right ideas? I'll take Fritz's personal experience over your theoretical nonesense anyday.

[Rowan]

The Strategic Registration Amendment

1. Article V, Section 2, Clause 7 is hereby amended to read: "Persons may only change their State of registration once every 180 days."

I strongly support this legislation.

[Sbane]

It's pretty simple- anyone over 14 is now an adult.  Yes, firearms are included, as well as drinking, smoking, driving, being in porn, sexual consent, having a job, leaving home and supporting yourself (your parents could kick you out too, if they wanted to), joining the military or being drafted, suing or being sued, etc. etc. etc.  I contend that if 14 year olds are mature enough to look at porn unrestrained, they have the maturity for all of these other things as well.

Being in porn? Prostitution? Drinking? Smoking? Are you insane? You don't see a difference between just watching some porn and these activities?

Why is Fritz insane? Are you insane? Everytime I take a postion, Fritz takes a slightly different one, both of which disagree with you; We are insane for taking a different position from you. When did you get sole monopolization of the right ideas? I'll take Fritz's personal experience over your theoretical nonesense anyday.

No he's not insane obviously. I just don't see the need for this straw man legislation. Where is the proof that watching pornography at the age of 14 is worse than at 18? On the other hand smoking and drinking is bad for you at every age (and even worse at 14 because you are still developing) but adults can make that choice for themselves. Arms are also dangerous in the hands of immature teenagers, pornography not so much. If you guys disagreed with the "bow chicka bow wow" bill that is just fine with me, but stop being such cry babies.