2013 Early Venezuela Presidential Election

[LastVoter]

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

Leave. Now.

Congratulations, Phil.

[LastVoter]

Well, I don't see why everyone is so persuaded than there was fraud.

It's quite possible, I would even it's likely, but I wouldn't dare to affirm it's sure at 100%

Process is flawed and has to be fixed, for sure. Involvement of the army worries me, yes. But I wouldn't make a call on the legitimacy right now. I would wait than more elements are avaliable to reach a fully enlightened decision, not just using first impressions.

It may sound ridiculous, but, we work that way in science, and I think the approach is worthwhile in other domains, too.

That's not how right-wingers operate, that's why you don't see many of them in science. They have a tendency to "believe".

[LastVoter]

Well, I don't see why everyone is so persuaded than there was fraud.

It's quite possible, I would even it's likely, but I wouldn't dare to affirm it's sure at 100%

Process is flawed and has to be fixed, for sure. Involvement of the army worries me, yes. But I wouldn't make a call on the legitimacy right now. I would wait than more elements are avaliable to reach a fully enlightened decision, not just using first impressions.

It may sound ridiculous, but, we work that way in science, and I think the approach is worthwhile in other domains, too.

That's not how right-wingers operate, that's why you don't see many of them in science. They have a tendency to "believe".

We all "believe". Does that make me, someone that you personally helped identify with socialism, a right-winger?

I think a couple examples from a few recent days tell a different story. Most notably their response when there was an attempt to compare reactions at Chavez and Thatcher deaths, and Bush's Florida in 2000. I don't think anyone on the left went around [inks]ing about how celebrations of Chavez's death were in bad taste.