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Bacon King
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« on: October 27, 2014, 08:09:37 PM »

Are you talking about the regional election?  If so, you must be confused.  Deus's vote is here: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=201030.msg4351023#msg4351023

im well aware that deus vote is there. Im also aware that yesterday it was at the top of page 2. Therefore someone deleted a post. Who and why?

Please stop throwing out questions like you're running the Star Chamber in here - that's totally unnecessary. 

There is nothing stopping anyone from deleting their ballot and then reposting it. Doing so would have changed the order of posts - there is no impropriety in that in any way.  There were 33 votes when the results were calculated, there are 33 votes now.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm speaking on regional law - which is much more flexible than federal law in this area.

Prohibitions against editing one's ballot after a certain time naturally also apply to ballots that are deleted and reposted. Otherwise, the time limit for editing a vote would be meaningless since everyone could just avoid it by deleting their old ballot if they want to edit it after the time limit (and deletion is arguably an edit anyway).

I do believe Federal laws regarding vote edits/deletions apply for regional elections as well though admittedly I'm unfamiliar with the details of the case law.

Also I'm curious about the flexibility you're referring to because as far as I can tell, Northeastern law specifically and explicitly prohibits ballot deletion
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2014, 08:30:34 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2014, 08:52:10 PM by Bacon King »

To be honest, I haven't seen that page before with regard to NE elections.  It was passed a decade ago and was in effect for a constitution that is no longer in place (the one in '04).  The Northeast has had at least two since then. 

To my knowledge, those regulations have not been applied to elections for the Assembly since it was first established.

In my opinion, those regulations are basically defunct.  In conducting elections, I've referenced the most up-to-date version of the NE Constitution and any statute passed by the Assembly since it's establishment in 2009.



I skimmed through the Northeast statute and I haven't seen any more recent law that repealed or overwrote the clause I linked to. Although there's also this 2011 law that specifically prohibits any ballot alteration whatsoever - it was passed only a couple of months before the most recent constitution, nothing in the current constitution counteracts it, and I don't see any law contradicting it that's been passed more recently
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 03:38:45 AM »
« Edited: October 28, 2014, 04:07:06 AM by Bacon King »

Are we sure someone deleted a ballot? Barnes listed 33 votes when the booth was closed and there are 33 votes still in the booth. Just in case:

I think apparently someone deleted their first page vote to revote on the second page- hence Deus's vote jumping from page 2 to page 1 but the total vote count staying the same?

Also it sure is D-GA in here
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