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Estrella
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« on: July 27, 2020, 04:57:15 PM »

Sask more right wing than Alberta? Dougie Toms will be turning in his grave.

Ah, he already is. Rural areas west of Quebec have decided they like voting as if they were in the US and the result is this. Alberta has a more urban population than Sask, so it's likely true on social issues. Back when they weren't a joke party outside cities, Sask NDP was pretty socially conservative, too - Tommy was a Baptist minister, after all. I recall someone on this forum saying an NDP provincial minister wanted to ban people from wearing spandex in parks sometime in the 90s.

Alberta is a SSR, after all.
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Estrella
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2020, 07:51:19 PM »

in what universe is saskatchewan more conservative than alberta? was there ever federal elections where sk voted more right-wing than ab? even with edmonton and calgary, alberta is far more conservative.

Admittedly, none yet (in recent history at least, I'm not going back to the days of UFA). In 2019, Conservatives got 69.2% (+2.2% for PPC) in AB and 64.3% (+1.8% for PPC) in SK*. In 2015, the numbers were 59.5% in AB and only 48.5% in SK. By the next election, Sask may well overtake Alberta, but IMO these numbers overlook the fact that a lot of that Alberta vote is coming from Edmonton and Calgary, places where a lot of people vote Tory because of regionalism and oil issues. That's not to say that Alberta is some amazingly liberal place, even compared to Sask - it's probably a very close fight between the two.

Think of SK as West Virginia (or, for a closer example, rural Minnesota) and of AB as Oklahoma.

* For some inexplicable reason I had to go to French Wikipedia to get these popular vote results by province - they are literally nowhere else wiki et médias anglaises de tabarnak
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 11:11:05 AM »

And given how much "demographics as destiny" drives American politics, it is hard to see Alberta as "more conservative" than Saskatchewan from that vantage point.

Alberta has certainly historically been the more conservative, that may no longer be the case now.

Alberta is pretty strange. It's the only province in Canada that could be described as having a consistent ideology in the sense of red/blue states in the US. Last time it voted for a non-right-of-centre party was in 1940 (Liberals narrowly won the popular vote; still, Socreds won more seats). Since then, it has voted for Social Credit in 1945-1957, Progressive Conservatives in 1958-1988, Reform/Alliance in 1993-2001 and Conservatives since 2004.

Same on provincial level: when Rachel Notley won in 2015, Alberta was four months shy of 80 years (!) of uninterrupted conservative rule*.

* Yes, some PC governments were rather moderate, but ultimately they were always centre-right at best. Some also say that Social Credit's right-wingedness in their early days is debatable, which is probably bullsh*t: they were most notable for syncretic economic policies, authoritarianism and anti-semitism, which may or may not make them fascist, but doesn't make them any less right-wing.
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