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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 28, 2017, 02:29:14 AM »
« edited: March 28, 2017, 02:31:12 AM by TheDeadFlagBlues »

Why should our healthcare system be a for-profit system? There might be a benefit to allowing for the profit motive to exist in the realm of medical equipment and pharmaceuticals; there's no benefit whatsoever to allowing for the profit motive to exist in hospital networks or "private practices" or health insurance. With this in mind, why not move towards a Beveridge system or single-payer? These systems are excellent: they're incredibly cost-effective, they're equitable and they achieve fantastic health outcomes.

If you are triggered by the word "socialism", there are alternatives but none of them involve the profit motive. The ultimate goal is to move away from a system where there are incentives for agents in healthcare markets to utilize their market power to gauge patients and to soak up rent money. In reality, there's nothing efficient or optimal about a system where rent-seeking agents are allowed to bilk money from consumers and put into their own pockets.
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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 02:32:06 AM »

Anyways, it feels so good that socialism is going to win on this issue in the US but I still feel bad for the losers who are trapped in the year 1997.
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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 02:38:08 AM »

Anyways, it feels so good that socialism is going to win on this issue in the US but I still feel bad for the losers who are trapped in the year 1997.

Yeah except socialism is not going to win on this issue, thankfully.

Bernie Sanders it the most popular politician in the country because regular people want free things from the government: how does that make you feel?
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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 02:41:42 AM »

If we eliminate the private sector for one industry, it's not like the bernie left is going to stop there. They'll push for another industry to be destroyed by the government, and so on, until "the free market" looks like China's - a few private businesses are allowed so they can look capitalist, but everyone knows they're not actually capitalist (And it would not matter if we still elected our leaders - Socialism is an economic idea). The only reason the bernie left doesn't say this is because if they did so, the entire democratic party would suffer losses far worse than they did in 2010. We have to take a stand here, while capitalists have the advantage, to prevent the erosion of the capitalist values under which this country was founded and must keep to remain the greatest country in the world.

Nah, that's not accurate. These days socialists support the idea of worker-controlled industry in the form of cooperatives (think: market socialism) and these people are on the fringes.

Anyways, considering how strong China's economic performance is, that isn't much of a boogey-man these days, is it?
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