Big Ten Country

[Kodratos]

I was under the impression that it was just a conservative/populist party, and didn't know that it had any racist beliefs. I will change my sig to Hoyre

[dunn]

I was under the impression that it was just a conservative/populist party, and didn't know that it had any racist beliefs. I will change my sig to Hoyre

That's can happen. Good thing that you changed it

[ian]

I believe that IN will go to Bush indefinitely.  Most people would call me overconfident, since my map gave Kerry a lot more EVs than Bush, but unless Bayh is the VP (which he won't be), IN is going to go Republican again.  Polls show Bush ahead by a humongus margin.

[opebo]

three

Three would be sufficent.  Personally I think it will be more, but three is all that's required.

[opebo]

I believe that IN will go to Bush indefinitely.  Most people would call me overconfident, since my map gave Kerry a lot more EVs than Bush, but unless Bayh is the VP (which he won't be), IN is going to go Republican again.  Polls show Bush ahead by a humongus margin.

Bush would still win with Bayh as Kerry's VP.  Hoosiers wouldn't stomach Kerry just to see Bayh in that powerless office.

[angus]

three

Three would be sufficent.  Personally I think it will be more, but three is all that's required.

ohio and indiana are the only two I put on my map.  I reserve the right to name the third after labor day.

[AndyTheMan]

From my corner in Big Ten Country I see Bush only winning Indiana. I think most of the states will be close expect for MI and IL which will probably vote strongly for Kerry.

[angus]

I believe that IN will go to Bush indefinitely.  Most people would call me overconfident, since my map gave Kerry a lot more EVs than Bush, but unless Bayh is the VP (which he won't be), IN is going to go Republican again.  Polls show Bush ahead by a humongus margin.

Bush would still win with Bayh as Kerry's VP.  Hoosiers wouldn't stomach Kerry just to see Bayh in that powerless office.

I don't know, I'd have figured bay-staters were smart enough not to encourage their senator to leave his for the thankless mess that is the modern presidency, but you see how far that thinking will get you.  People don't much read the constitution, as far as I can tell.  Seems like in a lot of folks mind, the Peter Principle is an imperative.  
Bayh = popular senator implies Bayh = good VP.  (?)  go figure...

[Gustaf]

3, IN, OH and PA.

[bejkuy]

4:

Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and either Wisconsin or Iowa.

IMHO Bush is wasting his time in Minnesota or Michigan.

[opebo]

I believe that IN will go to Bush indefinitely.  Most people would call me overconfident, since my map gave Kerry a lot more EVs than Bush, but unless Bayh is the VP (which he won't be), IN is going to go Republican again.  Polls show Bush ahead by a humongus margin.

Bush would still win with Bayh as Kerry's VP.  Hoosiers wouldn't stomach Kerry just to see Bayh in that powerless office.

I don't know, I'd have figured bay-staters were smart enough not to encourage their senator to leave his for the thankless mess that is the modern presidency, but you see how far that thinking will get you.  People don't much read the constitution, as far as I can tell.  Seems like in a lot of folks mind, the Peter Principle is an imperative.  
Bayh = popular senator implies Bayh = good VP.  (?)  go figure...

The point is Indianans don't like national Democrats, particularly extremely liberal ones like Kerry.  They won't vote for Kerry just to get Bayh into the VP office.

[bejkuy]

You are right on the money OPEBO.

How could anyone, even John McCain, deceive the sane electorate of Indiana into choosing John Kerry to represent them.

Everything Kerry supports, Hoosiers reject.

[classical liberal]

I won't be surprised when Kerry gets 48-49% of the vote in Indiana.  The only question is whether Bush can muster the remaining 51%.  He may and he may not.  It really will depend on this year's appropriations process.

[opebo]

I won't be surprised when Kerry gets 48-49% of the vote in Indiana.  The only question is whether Bush can muster the remaining 51%.  He may and he may not.  It really will depend on this year's appropriations process.

Kerry might get that much if Bayh was VP, otherwise he'll get about 43-45%.

[Lunar]

The point is Indianans don't like national Democrats, particularly extremely liberal ones like Kerry.  They won't vote for Kerry just to get Bayh into the VP office.

There is a possibility of Bayh, someone they trust, convincing them that Kerry is better for President though.  I think Bayh would give Kerry some votes here, but whether or not it would be enough to put the state into play would be interesting.

[classical liberal]

He finished his final term as Governor with an 80% approval rating.  He definately has some influence on Hoosiers.