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« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2010, 01:39:09 PM »

A : I would like you to precise how people like me and Kalwejt, have, as you said, shown unwillingness to debate and reach compromises. If I well remember, I almost everytimes voted for your final bills, and I were overall supportive on the bill you tabled because of the amendments we passed. My personal opinion of you never made me refuse to reach compromises with you isnside the Assembly.

H : You two claim that I refuse to debate, though you leave my questions unanswered. But again, I don't care about specifically in the Assembly. There has to be mutual respect around the forum. I'm not going to just brush aside all the negativity coming from your side in the Assembly until you do so in the Voting Booth. See how it works both ways? Now, since I didn't initiate conflict, I will not initiate any kind of reconcialiation. The ball is in your court but I'm not holding my breath.

A : Apart from the fact that I deny having "initiated conflict", don't you consider that adopting such a bad attitude in the Assembly due to personal issues with some Reps harms the legislative work ? That you are sacrificing the interests of the Northeastern people because of your own anger ?

H : Of course you deny it or "don't see it." How else could I be the bad guy?

I refuse to answer this question.


A : On December, Mint, the candidate of the ARC, was elected to the Senate with the highest number of votes. What is your opinion about him ?

H : Mint is a great guy, a man of ideas who can contribute to the Senate more than anyone else. I think the hateful lies people lik Badger spread about him were disgusting.

A : While I see no reason to criticize Mint personally, what do you think about his participation to Atlasia before his election ? Don't you think he lacked experience of Atlasia to run for a so high office ?

H : Mint was a pretty consistent voter since he registered [strategically] as one of Tmthforu's zombies. Oh, but only Hamilton can have zombies, so Antonio likes Tmth but hates Hamilton. okay.

Anyways, Mint has voted and ran a good campaign so I think his participation was fine. As for experience, how is Senate any different from any other office? it isn't. And frankly, the experienced people around here suck, so I'd love to see some less active and newer posters win election to any office.


A : Could you make it clearer why more active Senators "suck" and why Mint was better than them ?

H : Because they represent the establishment in this game, and the establishment is an evil force. The establishment wants to restrict this game to a select few, and they group together regardless of ideology to oppose anyone who approaches the game with a different viewpoint. I'm obviously not the first victim, they did the same to Xahar and many others before me.

A : So you consider that an "aristocracy" now controls Atlasia and tries to prevent newcomers to access high responsibilities in Atlasia. So, what about Barnes ? What about Tmthforu ? What about Teddy, even more recently ? All newbies, but who have never been victims of the "establishment" as you claim to be.

H : Hm, interesting. You give me one member who has consistently bent to the will of the establishment (Barnes), another who faced ridicule from people like Purple State and was harassed by his own former party members like DWTL and has even admitted to voting for things he disagreed with just to fit in (Tmth), and another who recently left the game due to his disgust with the attitudes here (Teddy). So, yes, great examples, Antonio!

A : You spoke about "the will of the establishment". What is this will ?

H : It's quite obvious that they will do anything to preserve their power.

A : So let me understand. Someone like Barnes, who though being a newbie, was perceived very well, if not complimented, by the "establishment", has been treated so well because he has worked to preserve the establishment's power ? How so ?

H : Let's be honest- Barnes isn't of much relevance to begin with, as far as the establishment goes. He was able to build little support for a Senate bid. Serving on the HAEV is proof that he is a tool of the establishment. The HAEV is a body intending to turn the game from its intended purpose as an election simulation with a government component to an exclusive clique of popularity contest participants.

A : The next Atlasian Presidential Election will be held in February. For the moment, the declared candidates are Bacon King for the JCP, Xahar for the LNF and Mechaman for the AASP. What is your feeling about this election ?

H : My feeling is that it shouldn't even be held. It's pointless. People aren't going to vote for the candidate who has the views closest to theirs or who they think would do the best job, they're going to vote for the candidate who is on their side- establishment or anti-establishment. That's why people like you will sell out your ideology so quickly- to keep in favor with the establishment and hope one day you get a chance.

A : Is the ARC considering to run a candidate for this election ? If it's the case, can you give me the name of the possible candidates ?

H : I may run if Bacon King looks like he is going to win an easy victory. Otherwise, I will be supporting Xahar, someone who has helped me out a lot, is intelligent and good at management, and holds his values strong. He also has a record of reform, something we are in dire need of these days.

A : What should be, in your opinion, a good agenda for the next President ?

H : I don't really care. I'd like to see some kind of "reboot" feature where we can somehow start the game over (re-register, new Constitutions for each region, get people back in their homestates, stick Europeans in the Midwest, possibly erase laws currently in existence and be forced to re-do them). The game needs competition to survive. It also needs passion. Both are lacking. There is only so much one can do around here, and people are running out of ideas, running out of offices, enthusiasm is low. We're in a sad state, and it's because of a select few people.

A : You are running for Governor of the Northeast Region. If elected, what will you do ?

H : If elected, I will stir up debate in many ways, I will help push through sweeping urban renewal legislation to clean up inner cities and offer impoverished families more opportunities. I also will begin to introduce some new initiatives that will increase activity within the region from faces we don't see so often, but I'm not going to reveal any details if I'm not elected. I also intend on being much more active then our current Governor and using the Governor as a leadership position.

A : As you know, the Governor has the power to "veto legislation he doesn't approve". Which use will you make of this important power ?

H : I will use the veto when appropriate. I will always alert the Assembly if I intend to veto during debate and let them know what they can do to change it to earn my support.

A : The polls are showing the race as close, but with a slight lead in favor of AndrewCT. How do you estimate your chances of winning ?


He could never answer to this question. So this interview will remain unachieved forever. Other questions I planned to ask were about :
- Mechman's party thread deletion
- The TrollList
- His personal issues with me and Kalwejt

Here is it, fellow Atlasians.
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« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2010, 01:41:01 PM »

It's like the end of an era.
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« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2010, 04:13:32 PM »

Hamilton's gone?!?
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« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2010, 04:15:07 PM »


Indeed. His name's no longer on the Members List.
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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2010, 04:31:42 PM »


Rather the end of one uberactive troll. Not a big deal. Not the first and not the last.
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« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2010, 04:58:58 PM »

A man of great promise and yet had such flaws that made him a danger to the game. I am so glad to see that my mistake has finally been dealt with.

It is so very clear that Hamilton has a post July centric view of things. Sure he read up on the past but he didn't see or feal it first hand. Especially when talking about making the game an exclusive club. It was his friends in the LNF that would have achieved that had they had there way.

Also, Hamilton pulling this scape goat gig is just cute. Considering I have been nothing but absolutely clear that Hamilton wasn't the only one recruiting zombies into the RPP. Tmth was doing before Hamilton and PiT before Tmth. However at least under PiT the zombies weren't intentionall and 90% of the RPP always got out to vote and was eligible compared to now with less then 50% voting and alway 1 or 2 that are ineligible.

Next the RPP is not  "packed with zombies" by choice and we are working to be rid of them to improve internal functionings of the party.
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« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2010, 05:12:22 PM »

Hamilton has always enjoyed "playing up" his hatred of the RPP by citing the things he did as reason to hate us. It's a little game he plays.
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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2010, 07:19:09 PM »

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Thanks, H, enjoy oblivion.

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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2010, 09:00:17 PM »

Hamilton's last words
An exclusive interview by Antonio V

 Fine, but I don't work hard and play nice just to get slapped in the face and the fact that people are writing me off for Governor despite knowing I would do the job better (as Kaalwejt said in private)

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Kalwejt doesnt like how I do my job? Sad Sad
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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2010, 10:24:07 PM »

As unhappy as I am about Hamilton's banning, the interview was good. Very appropriate/relevant questions.
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« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2010, 01:52:15 AM »

Hamilton's last words
An exclusive interview by Antonio V

 Fine, but I don't work hard and play nice just to get slapped in the face and the fact that people are writing me off for Governor despite knowing I would do the job better (as Kaalwejt said in private)

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Kalwejt doesnt like how I do my job? Sad Sad

I doubt that. Hamilton was a compulsive liar.
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« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2010, 01:56:55 AM »

I hope no one minds if I offer a few comments (and don't tell Hamilton I say any of this, please)

This interview seems to show a man who really has "gone to the dark side" so to speak. Certainly not the humorous and sarcastic Hamilton we were familiar with, but a more cynical and possibly enraged Atlasian. The focus of this entire interview (questions and answers) are on negatives rather than positives, and I don't know, it just seems like there is an almost sinister undertone to it that might reflect a bit more about Hamilton than anything the actual text of it says. This was the impression I got but feel free to disagree.
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« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2010, 02:07:20 AM »

Oh good grief. Life goes on. I'm sure Hamilton will be back in some other form, but sitting here posting article after article idolizing him is the stupidest thing I've seen in a while. I've tried to stay out of the trenches, because it isn't good for my mental state, but this is becoming too much. It's time to move on from this episode and try to return to a state of normalcy. You don't know what mental state he is in over the computer.

Also, I'm sure he'll read what you just wrote, if he didn't author it himself to have you post for him.
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« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2010, 02:16:25 AM »

Also, I'm sure he'll read what you just wrote, if he didn't author it himself to have you post for him.

He can't even view the forum because he was IP banned and permanently logged in.
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« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2010, 01:47:46 PM »

Also, I'm sure he'll read what you just wrote, if he didn't author it himself to have you post for him.

He can't even view the forum because he was IP banned and permanently logged in.

He could go through a proxy of some kind.
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« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2010, 02:34:09 PM »

Yeah, he's not an idiot. He could easily get on here through a proxy.
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« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2010, 06:07:22 PM »

A man of great promise and yet had such flaws that made him a danger to the game.

Sums it up.
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« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2010, 07:24:24 PM »

I would have liked to have heard a question on his final opinion of me; But who cares in the end.
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« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2010, 09:15:25 PM »

Well, since Hammy well recalling (inaccurately) our private talks...

Hamilton is a flip-flooper without any ideas who's interested only about being popular and about commanding naive people. Only reason he turned to guys like Libertas and many other (with exceptions of course) like him in ARC was that they were willing to follow him.

Too bad, guys, you don't know that during Autumn Hamilton had diffrent ideas and was talking to me about creating a Social Democratic Party, also wanting Antonio to be in.

So much for ideas of your gone flip-flooping boss.
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« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2010, 12:10:35 PM »

Too bad, guys, you don't know that during Autumn Hamilton had diffrent ideas and was talking to me about creating a Social Democratic Party, also wanting Antonio to be in.

Not surprising at all. At the time, Kal and me were Hamilton's Libertas and Segway. His fanclub was composed of leftist, so he had to be one too. I remember him calling himself a "progressive" repeatedly and even a "socialist" once. So he left the PCP (because people here were starting to know him too well) and joined the LNF.

When Kal and me started to understand who he was (quite late unfortunately), he started to gather a bunch of unexperienced newbies like Libertas, Einzige, Winston, Giovanni and (at the time) Mechman. Since they were all libertarians, Hamilton converted himself to "small government" and founded the ARC.

And BTW, Kal's "impulsivenesses" and successive resignations, his unfounded angers against Marokai and Bgwah have a lot to do with Hamilton. As he did with me, he managed to manipulate him (by convincing him that JCP was plotting to make fail his candidacy) in order to ruin his carreer. Fortunately, it's now time for a new beginning. Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2010, 02:27:22 PM »

Well, since Hammy well recalling (inaccurately) our private talks...

Hamilton is a flip-flooper without any ideas who's interested only about being popular and about commanding naive people. Only reason he turned to guys like Libertas and many other (with exceptions of course) like him in ARC was that they were willing to follow him.

Too bad, guys, you don't know that during Autumn Hamilton had diffrent ideas and was talking to me about creating a Social Democratic Party, also wanting Antonio to be in.

So much for ideas of your gone flip-flooping boss.

That must of been what he meant when he said that if Duke didn't except PiT's rulling on the name change vote, he would leave and form his own party. He was not a Team player and wanted to have everything his way.
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« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2010, 05:01:06 PM »

He never threatened to leave if I didn't do things his way. In fact, PiT was the one who suggested I not allow the invalidation of the ballots, which I actually agreed with him on. There were always whispers of Hamilton wanting to be chairman of the RPP, form his own party, join the DA, and the like, but he would always put on a smile when he spoke with me. He threatened to leave, as did tmth, if I didn't kick either of them out of the party, to which I told both I wasn't doing any of that, and they could leave if they so chose. I still believe those two were closer than I could ever imagine during Hamilton's time in the RPP.

It's true that his whole purpose in this game was to be a powerful overlord. He once told friends he planned on being like bgwah - trolling around the forum for a few years, only to become the most powerful man in the game following all of that. Whether he believed it or not, well, that is for everyone else to decide. He loved to prey on kids with little or no self-esteem, talk to them about life, and then watch them become beholden to him. He was their "friend" and he could tell them to do anything he wanted, and they'd follow suit. If you didn't, you were an enemy of his, one who stood in his way. That's the way it was. He never cared for any of his "online" friends. They were only as good as what they could do for him.
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« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2010, 05:04:10 PM »

Too bad, guys, you don't know that during Autumn Hamilton had diffrent ideas and was talking to me about creating a Social Democratic Party, also wanting Antonio to be in.

Not surprising at all. At the time, Kal and me were Hamilton's Libertas and Segway. His fanclub was composed of leftist, so he had to be one too. I remember him calling himself a "progressive" repeatedly and even a "socialist" once. So he left the PCP (because people here were starting to know him too well) and joined the LNF.

When Kal and me started to understand who he was (quite late unfortunately), he started to gather a bunch of unexperienced newbies like Libertas, Einzige, Winston, Giovanni and (at the time) Mechman. Since they were all libertarians, Hamilton converted himself to "small government" and founded the ARC.

And BTW, Kal's "impulsivenesses" and successive resignations, his unfounded angers against Marokai and Bgwah have a lot to do with Hamilton. As he did with me, he managed to manipulate him (by convincing him that JCP was plotting to make fail his candidacy) in order to ruin his carreer. Fortunately, it's now time for a new beginning. Smiley

You are correct. That's something that I tried to point out to sane ones in the past, but it seemed like much of it fell on deaf ears. In the RPP, he'd walk around claiming he was a liberal, and he wanted to nationalize the financial system. Once he left us to form the ARC, he decided he was a small government, pro-freedom guy, who wanted a free market economy and free run of everything. He chastised the RPP for being too right winged, and then spoke of how he wanted ideological purity in the ARC. It was amusing for me to read, but sad, at the same time, to see many of the people here actually believe what he was saying.
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« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2010, 05:38:53 PM »

It's true that his whole purpose in this game was to be a powerful overlord. He once told friends he planned on being like bgwah - trolling around the forum for a few years, only to become the most powerful man in the game following all of that. Whether he believed it or not, well, that is for everyone else to decide.

Hamilton comparing himself to bgwah ? Grin Grin Grin They are the exact opposites, one is the king of "soft power" and discretion, the other is boasting and confrontational...
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How true... I must say I can perfectly understand people like segway or dallasfan, who probably aren't so bad themselves. They just thought to have found a friend, whereas they just found a cynical manipulator. I used to be quite harsh with those people in recent times, but actually they are more victims than accoplices.
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« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2010, 05:44:58 PM »

Good one for publishing the interview. It's a fitting summary of his time here.
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