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« Reply #1150 on: August 09, 2018, 01:06:02 PM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

Yeah because he makes a lot of our arguments easier to debate.
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« Reply #1151 on: August 09, 2018, 02:39:48 PM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

The attrition of left-wing posters like King, bedstuy, etc. to AAD also likely played a role here.
Why would they go there? AAD is way worse than regular Atlas. Hell, a few months ago people were messaging me on Facebook begging me to join because AAD was dying.

I say, let ‘em crash!
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« Reply #1152 on: August 09, 2018, 03:13:56 PM »

AAD is on the upswing now, probably due to the midterms.
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« Reply #1153 on: August 09, 2018, 04:14:17 PM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

The attrition of left-wing posters like King, bedstuy, etc. to AAD also likely played a role here.
Why would they go there? AAD is way worse than regular Atlas. Hell, a few months ago people were messaging me on Facebook begging me to join because AAD was dying.
please don't
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« Reply #1154 on: August 09, 2018, 04:16:40 PM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

The attrition of left-wing posters like King, bedstuy, etc. to AAD also likely played a role here.
Why would they go there? AAD is way worse than regular Atlas. Hell, a few months ago people were messaging me on Facebook begging me to join because AAD was dying.
please don't
Why would I want to go to Atlas’s dumping ground and deal with you even more?
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« Reply #1155 on: August 09, 2018, 04:17:40 PM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

The attrition of left-wing posters like King, bedstuy, etc. to AAD also likely played a role here.
Why would they go there? AAD is way worse than regular Atlas. Hell, a few months ago people were messaging me on Facebook begging me to join because AAD was dying.
please don't
Why would I want to go to Atlas’s dumping ground and deal with you even more?
Thanks
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« Reply #1156 on: August 09, 2018, 08:05:14 PM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

Yeah because he makes a lot of our arguments easier to debate.

lol
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« Reply #1157 on: August 11, 2018, 03:59:38 AM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

The attrition of left-wing posters like King, bedstuy, etc. to AAD also likely played a role here.

The latter is also gone from AAD nowadays: Twitter is his preferred mouthpiece (he's a vaguely popular #resistance member).
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« Reply #1158 on: August 11, 2018, 07:36:46 AM »

Alex Jones shouldn't have been banned from YouTube. He's too... entertaining. Somehow psychopath Logan Paul gets to stay, but Alex Jones (who can actually be funny with his craziness) somehow gets banned. Smh
Logan Paul has never been responsible for the parents of school shooting victims being unable to visit their child's grave.
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« Reply #1159 on: August 11, 2018, 07:54:13 AM »

The election of Trump has caused most of the red avatars' debating skills to lapse.

The attrition of left-wing posters like King, bedstuy, etc. to AAD also likely played a role here.

The latter is also gone from AAD nowadays: Twitter is his preferred mouthpiece (he's a vaguely popular #resistance member).

There’s a joke here, but it’s inappropriate.
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« Reply #1160 on: August 11, 2018, 10:13:12 AM »

I'm a social progressive, and I don't think "cultural appropriation" is a problem.
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« Reply #1161 on: August 11, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »

Im Pro Union and I think Janus v. the AFSCME wasn't the worst thing ever
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« Reply #1162 on: August 12, 2018, 10:49:10 AM »

Speed kills.

Or, to expand just a bit, high speeds are a major factor, I believe, in the frequency and especially the severity of accidents.

Certainly slow drivers (under 60 MPH) on freeways are a danger, but even here one has a better chance of avoiding a crash with such a driver if one is doing 65, rather than 75.

As I am fond of telling my Calculus students, the marginal time benefit from increasing your speed by 1 MPH obeys an inverse-square law: for example, increasing your speed from 70 to 71 MPH saves only one-quarter as much time as increasing one's speed from 35 to 36 MPH.

More to the point, even with today's car designs (and especially for pedestrians and cyclists), accidents are more severe at higher speeds. I feel our tendency to drive fast-- perhaps driven in part by our busy schedules, as well as suburban sprawl, is the main thing working against the great improvements we have seen in the auto accident fatality rate over the last 20 years.
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« Reply #1163 on: August 12, 2018, 03:01:26 PM »

Fleetwood Mac is really overrated.
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« Reply #1164 on: August 12, 2018, 04:09:49 PM »

The GOP's demographic situation will be fixed in a generation.  US election results aren't going to look like post-apartheid South Africa in fifty years.
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« Reply #1165 on: August 12, 2018, 04:45:52 PM »

The GOP's demographic situation will be fixed in a generation.  US election results aren't going to look like post-apartheid South Africa in fifty years.

Most of the people who have actually thought out the idea of a demographic realignment don't usually suggest America will have a permanent Democratic supermajority or something like that. A lot of it is based on generational cycles between the parties, and those tend to last 35 - 45 years, with distinct rising and falling periods. For instance Republicans began rising in the 60s, peaked nationally in the 80s, with the downfall beginning in the 90s. Although even as they lost a national advantage, they gained a reliable one downballot that continues to this day - for now, anyway.

Myself and others don't think America will be SA 2.0. We just think Republicans aren't going to magically rebound with zero effort on their part. Any rebound is likely to take place over multiple generations, and with changes in both their coalition and policy agenda.

So one generation is not enough, imo, especially depending on what you believe a generation to be. I've seen people say it's ~15 years or between 15 - 25 years.
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« Reply #1166 on: August 12, 2018, 05:27:01 PM »

Parties tack when they finally realize that if they don't, they will be consigned to getting the short end of the stick in almost all elections. So if the current Pub profile proves to be a loser due to demographic changes, the profile will change. Politicians are in the business of winning. Not much else matters.
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« Reply #1167 on: August 12, 2018, 07:51:24 PM »

Parties tack when they finally realize that if they don't, they will be consigned to getting the short end of the stick in almost all elections. So if the current Pub profile proves to be a loser due to demographic changes, the profile will change. Politicians are in the business of winning. Not much else matters.

In the long run maybe, but parties can spend an awful long time in the wilderness.

The Democrats had only two Presidents and four terms between the Civil War and Great Depression. All of those elections were close except for 1912 which had a split Republican vote. Had it not have bern for that Grover Cleveland would've likely been the only Democratic President of the era.
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« Reply #1168 on: August 13, 2018, 01:22:35 AM »


Which Fleetwood Mac?
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« Reply #1169 on: August 13, 2018, 02:02:35 AM »

Sophia Loren was a nasty person.
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« Reply #1170 on: August 14, 2018, 04:51:39 AM »


Fleetwood Mac is great, one of the best bands ever
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« Reply #1171 on: August 14, 2018, 05:46:14 AM »
« Edited: August 14, 2018, 06:08:31 AM by DC Al Fine »

"Illegal war in Iraq" is a silly line parroted by people who have never heard that Stalin quip about the League of Nations.
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« Reply #1172 on: August 14, 2018, 04:53:03 PM »

Opposing abortion does not make a person 'pro life.'
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« Reply #1173 on: August 14, 2018, 04:55:13 PM »

Opposing abortion does not make a person 'pro life.'
This and Supporting abortion does not necessarily make a person pro choice.
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« Reply #1174 on: August 14, 2018, 04:57:04 PM »

Opposing abortion does not make a person 'pro life.'

Yes, and being for higher taxes on the wealthy isn't "liberal" in the European sense.  People use the label you give them.
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