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« on: December 04, 2013, 03:33:01 AM »
« edited: December 18, 2013, 12:39:14 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 03:33:26 AM »

The sponsor has 24 hours to begin advocating for this.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 01:31:37 AM »

A desire has been stated by some to make certain reforms with an eye towards increasing interest in Senate elections. Leaving the question particular of those and their merits aside, in general terms would this not work against that stated desire?
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 07:35:21 AM »

Minimum debate time is over. Is a final vote desired?


Also, I would like a response to my question if practical.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 12:22:41 AM »

A desire has been stated by some to make certain reforms with an eye towards increasing interest in Senate elections. Leaving the question particular of those and their merits aside, in general terms would this not work against that stated desire?

I don't think it would make Senate elections less interesting, rather this amendment would give the voters a chance to approve legislation that the Senate rejects. Had this amendment been in place, we wouldn't be waiting around for regional reform to come up through the queue a second time.

We are not waiting for it to come up a second time. As long as the slot it was in is still free, Duke can tell Matt to bring it up at any time once it was introduced again. I beleive he is waiting for exams to be over so that he can take a more "direct" approach with it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 12:24:58 AM »

A desire has been stated by some to make certain reforms with an eye towards increasing interest in Senate elections. Leaving the question particular of those and their merits aside, in general terms would this not work against that stated desire?

I don't think it would make Senate elections less interesting, rather this amendment would give the voters a chance to approve legislation that the Senate rejects. Had this amendment been in place, we wouldn't be waiting around for regional reform to come up through the queue a second time.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this amendment doesn't seem to allow people to vote on amendments like the fix the regions one, only on bills.

That is correct from my reading of the text since it doesn't touch the appropriate article for such at all.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2013, 02:06:49 PM »

So ah, the amendment?
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2013, 07:04:00 PM »

I wil lgive until tomorrow morning.


I will of course oppose any attempt to alter the Article in question in a way that would reduce the standard for passing amendments when it comes to the Senate side of the equation.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2013, 08:12:56 AM »

hmmm


I think five days is more than generous.


Senators, the underlying Amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2013, 06:32:05 PM »

NAY

I cannot call it one way or the other until at least five have voted.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 12:18:03 AM »

This has enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 12:38:23 AM »

Vote on Final Senate Passage of the Let People Decide Amendment:

Aye (4): bore, Gass3268, TNF and Xahar
Nay (5): Maxwell, NC Yankee, Spiral, Tmthforu94, and TyriontheImperialist
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):
Vacant Seats (1): Napoleon

With five votes in the negative with time having expired, the Amendment has been rejected by the Senate.
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