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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2018, 07:52:52 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2018, 09:31:46 PM »



What I would be especially interested in is what the equivalent #s were in 2008, when there was such huge early voting for Obama in GA by African Americans. How does that compare (obviously in a Presidential election) to what we see this year regarding GA early voting?
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2018, 09:41:35 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2018, 09:57:23 PM by Fmr. Pres. Griff »

What I would be especially interested in is what the equivalent #s were in 2008, when there was such huge early voting for Obama in GA by African Americans. How does that compare (obviously in a Presidential election) to what we see this year regarding GA early voting?

Mail ballots in GA have - by default - historically been more Republican than the electorate, but have been shifting toward the Democrats in the past few years. This probably was also the case with early voting in general before Democrats moved to pursue it here beginning in 2008. Since voting by mail isn't really something that has been pushed aggressively by Democrats (outside of the states where it has been common for some time) until 2016 or so, I feel pretty confident in these percentages being unprecedentedly Democratic compared to past cycles. The only comparison we can't definitely make is to the raw figures (# of votes), but given the big push this year, those numbers are probably going to shatter all records, too.

However, it's worth noting that there was the same vote by mail campaign being pushed in GA in either 2014 or 2016 (can't remember which election) by the Voter Protection group setup by the DPG; the reason I remember this is because the applications/envelopes mailed out don't actually disclose who is sending them, and in both of these elections, I've fielded calls and questions about whether the VBM letters were actually legitimate. I'm not sure why the DPG et al can't just put their name on the letter or envelope to give people more confidence that it's not a GOP ruse or what have you.



EDIT: Comparing figures to the past 3 elections is easy to do since the SoS adopted the new, non-PDF reporting pages.

Mail ballots were actually more Democratic in 2016 than Election Day and early in-person voting (which were almost identical to one another), but you can see going back to 2014 and 2012 that the mail ballots were the most GOP category; a clear trend has been forming since.

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2018, 09:59:53 PM »

Hopefully the early voting in person has a similar trend as the mail ballots - and there is similar excitement to 2008.

The kids in this are probably voting age now, so here's to hoping that they vote however they like!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxlwYP0HNdc
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2018, 10:03:44 PM »

It's worth noting that there does seem to be some volatility in the leans of each group depending on the type of election in GA. For example, the Election Day vote in the gubernatorial primary was the most Democratic category (excluding provisionals), while early in-person voting was the most Republican (though barely more so than mail ballots):

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2018, 10:54:34 PM »

Minnesota early voting is off da chain:

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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2018, 11:03:40 PM »




Me and my entire family are shifting from voting early in person to voting absentee. Interested in seeing how these numbers hold up through the next few weeks.
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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2018, 11:11:59 PM »



Me and my entire family are shifting from voting early in person to voting absentee. Interested in seeing how these numbers hold up through the next few weeks.

Glorious News! And I see he added the comparisons in the tweet below:

At this time in...
2014: 4,163 ballots; 78% white
2018: 6,585 ballots; 48% white
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2018, 05:58:24 AM »

At this time in...
2014: 4,163 ballots; 78% white
2018: 6,585 ballots; 48% white

If only we could hear krazen's response to this news.
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2018, 06:02:29 AM »

At this time in...
2014: 4,163 ballots; 78% white
2018: 6,585 ballots; 48% white

If only we could hear krazen's response to this news.

Hard pass.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2018, 10:06:21 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2018, 02:51:49 PM »

It's very hard to read anything into this early ballot request spike in MN, because a rise in absentee ballots doesn't necessarily mean higher turnout overall.

Still, I would like to see an increase in turnout in these mid-terms, because turnout in US midterms is always very crappy.
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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2018, 03:32:02 PM »

It's very hard to read anything into this early ballot request spike in MN, because a rise in absentee ballots doesn't necessarily mean higher turnout overall.

Still, I would like to see an increase in turnout in these mid-terms, because turnout in US midterms is always very crappy.

Besides, MN just implemented no-excuse early voting in 2014. Prior to that, you had to deliver a written request for why you should be allowed to vote early by mail or in-person. A huge increase compared to the first time the process is used would be completely normal; certainly doesn't look impressive compared to the infinite percentage growth between 2010-2014!
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2018, 02:36:28 PM »

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2018, 03:12:42 PM »

Stacey Abrams may have been right about GA all along.
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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2018, 10:27:24 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2018, 11:19:25 PM »



That seems encouraging, considering this means Abrams strategy is working so far.
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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2018, 11:23:08 PM »

That seems encouraging, considering this means Abrams strategy is working so far.
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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2018, 07:54:21 AM »

Are we really gonna overanalyze <20k votes when there will be more than 2 million cast statewide?

How long have you been here? Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2018, 12:35:09 PM »

Absentee voting is going on right now in Texas. There doesn't seem to be any statistical information yet, but I got my ballot in any case:

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« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2018, 03:01:44 PM »

Literally just voted early in-person in Illinois (the 13th Congressional district, specifically). Gladly voted for Betsy Dirksen Londrigan for Congress; held my nose and voted for JB Pritzker for Governor. There were three machines to submit paper ballots into and mine said I was the 84th person to submit a ballot in it (early voting has been going on here since September 27th)
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« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2018, 03:17:39 PM »

Here is some more data (by county) from Georgia that I compiled for the 17k ballots received so far.

The 1st number is total absentee ballots requested, the 2nd is the number returned so far, the 3rd number is the percent of ballots that have been returned so far, and the 4th number is the county's Black population percentage.

It seems like the counties with the highest percentage of ballots returned so far are smaller rural counties. That seems not to have much of a relationship with the black population percentage in each county.

The statewide average return rate so far is 13.5%. All the major Atlanta-area counties are below that (Fulton, DeKalb, Cobb, Gwinnett, Clayton). And yet, we know that the returns are disproportionately from African American voters, including quite a few that did not vote in 2014. There are also some rural/smaller counties that don't have many ballots returned yet, but on average rural areas seem to be returning ballots more quickly than the Atlanta area.

Maybe some of our resident Georgia experts can help interpret this, and explain why this is the case? Why are the return rates significantly lower in the Atlanta area so far? Just an idea, but maybe the Abrams campaign has been focusing on turnout especially in the Atlanta area, and got more people who would not normally use absentee ballots to get ballots there as compared to in rural ares?

This also should mean that if ballots in the Atlanta area do start getting returned at a higher rate and start to catch up, then it may get even BETTER for Abrams than it already looks now?

RANDOLPH     ---    273     ---    93     ---    34.1%     ---    60.7%     ---   
COOK     ---    183     ---    58     ---    31.7%     ---    27.7%     ---   
GORDON     ---    245     ---    77     ---    31.4%     ---    4.4%     ---   
BUTTS     ---    210     ---    64     ---    30.5%     ---    27.9%     ---   
EARLY     ---    228     ---    69     ---    30.3%     ---    49.5%     ---   
TOWNS     ---    105     ---    31     ---    29.5%     ---    1.1%     ---   
WILCOX     ---    119     ---    35     ---    29.4%     ---    35.7%     ---   
BLECKLEY     ---    161     ---    47     ---    29.2%     ---    26.8%     ---   
TATTNALL     ---    210     ---    60     ---    28.6%     ---    29.7%     ---   
UPSON     ---    343     ---    98     ---    28.6%     ---    27.8%     ---   
APPLING     ---    273     ---    74     ---    27.1%     ---    19.6%     ---   
DAWSON     ---    187     ---    50     ---    26.7%     ---    0.8%     ---   
GILMER     ---    274     ---    72     ---    26.3%     ---    0.9%     ---   
IRWIN     ---    73     ---    19     ---    26%     ---    27.1%     ---   
ELBERT     ---    338     ---    87     ---    25.7%     ---    29.7%     ---   
WALKER     ---    316     ---    81     ---    25.6%     ---    4.4%     ---   
JOHNSON     ---    133     ---    34     ---    25.6%     ---    34.6%     ---   
RABUN     ---    750     ---    189     ---    25.2%     ---    1.6%     ---   
WASHINGTON     ---    450     ---    113     ---    25.1%     ---    52.6%     ---   
GLASCOCK     ---    32     ---    8     ---    25%     ---    9.4%     ---   
PAULDING     ---    2040     ---    502     ---    24.6%     ---    17.8%     ---   
TOOMBS     ---    427     ---    105     ---    24.6%     ---    25.9%     ---   
DECATUR     ---    389     ---    94     ---    24.2%     ---    41.4%     ---   
WILKINSON     ---    170     ---    41     ---    24.1%     ---    38.1%     ---   
MACON     ---    220     ---    52     ---    23.6%     ---    59.9%     ---   
TERRELL     ---    288     ---    68     ---    23.6%     ---    60.2%     ---   
JACKSON     ---    462     ---    109     ---    23.6%     ---    7.1%     ---   
JONES     ---    625     ---    147     ---    23.5%     ---    24.6%     ---   
GREENE     ---    364     ---    85     ---    23.4%     ---    36.9%     ---   
CATOOSA     ---    198     ---    46     ---    23.2%     ---    2.6%     ---   
RICHMOND     ---    3482     ---    807     ---    23.2%     ---    55.2%     ---   
EFFINGHAM     ---    385     ---    89     ---    23.1%     ---    13.9%     ---   
TROUP     ---    860     ---    198     ---    23%     ---    34.9%     ---   
LAMAR     ---    239     ---    55     ---    23%     ---    31.2%     ---   
CALHOUN     ---    74     ---    17     ---    23%     ---    61.4%     ---   
FLOYD     ---    690     ---    157     ---    22.8%     ---    14.9%     ---   
HEARD     ---    221     ---    50     ---    22.6%     ---    10.6%     ---   
EMANUEL     ---    214     ---    48     ---    22.4%     ---    34.1%     ---   
FRANKLIN     ---    210     ---    47     ---    22.4%     ---    9.2%     ---   
QUITMAN     ---    36     ---    8     ---    22.2%     ---    47.4%     ---   
BARROW     ---    708     ---    157     ---    22.2%     ---    11.6%     ---   
COWETA     ---    1417     ---    308     ---    21.7%     ---    18%     ---   
CRAWFORD     ---    111     ---    24     ---    21.6%     ---    21.4%     ---   
LEE     ---    293     ---    63     ---    21.5%     ---    20.4%     ---   
BEN HILL     ---    256     ---    55     ---    21.5%     ---    35.1%     ---   
MCINTOSH     ---    233     ---    50     ---    21.5%     ---    34.9%     ---   
DADE     ---    56     ---    12     ---    21.4%     ---    1.4%     ---   
LONG     ---    76     ---    16     ---    21.1%     ---    26.1%     ---   
HOUSTON     ---    1870     ---    388     ---    20.7%     ---    29.9%     ---   
MERIWETHER     ---    270     ---    56     ---    20.7%     ---    39.1%     ---   
CHEROKEE     ---    2298     ---    473     ---    20.6%     ---    6.4%     ---   
FORSYTH     ---    2325     ---    473     ---    20.3%     ---    3.3%     ---   
BARTOW     ---    743     ---    151     ---    20.3%     ---    10.8%     ---   
MADISON     ---    266     ---    54     ---    20.3%     ---    9.1%     ---   
CARROLL     ---    854     ---    173     ---    20.3%     ---    18.7%     ---   
TWIGGS     ---    173     ---    35     ---    20.2%     ---    41.6%     ---   
LAURENS     ---    872     ---    176     ---    20.2%     ---    36.2%     ---   
BROOKS     ---    265     ---    53     ---    20%     ---    35%     ---   
OCONEE     ---    440     ---    88     ---    20%     ---    5.4%     ---   
POLK     ---    217     ---    43     ---    19.8%     ---    13%     ---   
JEFF DAVIS     ---    86     ---    17     ---    19.8%     ---    15.5%     ---   
UNION     ---    208     ---    41     ---    19.7%     ---    0.8%     ---   
BRYAN     ---    278     ---    54     ---    19.4%     ---    15.2%     ---   
SPALDING     ---    842     ---    163     ---    19.4%     ---    33.3%     ---   
TALIAFERRO     ---    146     ---    28     ---    19.2%     ---    58.6%     ---   
THOMAS     ---    652     ---    124     ---    19%     ---    36.9%     ---   
CHATTOOGA     ---    95     ---    18     ---    18.9%     ---    10.4%     ---   
WILKES     ---    176     ---    33     ---    18.8%     ---    42.6%     ---   
OGLETHORPE     ---    277     ---    50     ---    18.1%     ---    17.6%     ---   
LOWNDES     ---    1210     ---    216     ---    17.9%     ---    36.8%     ---   
COLUMBIA     ---    1640     ---    290     ---    17.7%     ---    16.5%     ---   
CHARLTON     ---    68     ---    12     ---    17.6%     ---    32.3%     ---   
TIFT     ---    335     ---    59     ---    17.6%     ---    30.4%     ---   
HART     ---    202     ---    35     ---    17.3%     ---    18.6%     ---   
PULASKI     ---    116     ---    20     ---    17.2%     ---    31.5%     ---   
EVANS     ---    122     ---    21     ---    17.2%     ---    30.9%     ---   
LANIER     ---    76     ---    13     ---    17.1%     ---    23%     ---   
BALDWIN     ---    646     ---    110     ---    17%     ---    41.7%     ---   
CRISP     ---    282     ---    48     ---    17%     ---    43.6%     ---   
WHITFIELD     ---    529     ---    90     ---    17%     ---    4.3%     ---   
FANNIN     ---    383     ---    64     ---    16.7%     ---    0.7%     ---   
MONROE     ---    380     ---    62     ---    16.3%     ---    23.1%     ---   
BACON     ---    92     ---    15     ---    16.3%     ---    16.3%     ---   
BULLOCH     ---    647     ---    105     ---    16.2%     ---    28.9%     ---   
WARREN     ---    111     ---    18     ---    16.2%     ---    60.3%     ---   
COLQUITT     ---    278     ---    45     ---    16.2%     ---    23.5%     ---   
MORGAN     ---    220     ---    35     ---    15.9%     ---    23.2%     ---   
WALTON     ---    867     ---    136     ---    15.7%     ---    16.6%     ---   
ROCKDALE     ---    1334     ---    206     ---    15.4%     ---    49.5%     ---   
LUMPKIN     ---    268     ---    41     ---    15.3%     ---    1.8%     ---   
JENKINS     ---    86     ---    13     ---    15.1%     ---    43.2%     ---   
GLYNN     ---    892     ---    134     ---    15%     ---    26.6%     ---   
NEWTON     ---    1778     ---    267     ---    15%     ---    42.5%     ---   
PIERCE     ---    123     ---    18     ---    14.6%     ---    9.3%     ---   
MARION     ---    105     ---    15     ---    14.3%     ---    32%     ---   
CHATHAM     ---    4177     ---    594     ---    14.2%     ---    40.2%     ---   
HENRY     ---    3421     ---    486     ---    14.2%     ---    39.6%     ---   
MCDUFFIE     ---    569     ---    79     ---    13.9%     ---    40.4%     ---   
PUTNAM     ---    329     ---    45     ---    13.7%     ---    27.2%     ---   
HANCOCK     ---    225     ---    29     ---    12.9%     ---    72.6%     ---   
FULTON     ---    8536     ---    1090     ---    12.8%     ---    44.4%     ---   
CLARKE     ---    1809     ---    223     ---    12.3%     ---    27.3%     ---   
DEKALB     ---    12691     ---    1550     ---    12.2%     ---    54.8%     ---   
LINCOLN     ---    172     ---    20     ---    11.6%     ---    31.5%     ---   
COBB     ---    14279     ---    1546     ---    10.8%     ---    26.7%     ---   
BAKER     ---    57     ---    6     ---    10.5%     ---    45.6%     ---   
WORTH     ---    118     ---    12     ---    10.2%     ---    29.1%     ---   
JEFFERSON     ---    414     ---    42     ---    10.1%     ---    54.1%     ---   
ECHOLS     ---    21     ---    2     ---    9.5%     ---    5.3%     ---   
BERRIEN     ---    233     ---    22     ---    9.4%     ---    11.1%     ---   
PIKE     ---    215     ---    20     ---    9.3%     ---    10.7%     ---   
DOUGLAS     ---    2047     ---    189     ---    9.2%     ---    42.5%     ---   
CLAYTON     ---    4881     ---    446     ---    9.1%     ---    67.8%     ---   
BRANTLEY     ---    66     ---    6     ---    9.1%     ---    3.3%     ---   
STEPHENS     ---    334     ---    27     ---    8.1%     ---    11.2%     ---   
GWINNETT     ---    13071     ---    1041     ---    8%     ---    26.3%     ---   
CAMDEN     ---    832     ---    66     ---    7.9%     ---    19.4%     ---   
HARRIS     ---    395     ---    31     ---    7.8%     ---    17%     ---   
MONTGOMERY     ---    116     ---    9     ---    7.8%     ---    26.4%     ---   
HARALSON     ---    129     ---    9     ---    7%     ---    4.8%     ---   
BIBB     ---    2047     ---    141     ---    6.9%     ---    53.4%     ---   
SCHLEY     ---    44     ---    3     ---    6.8%     ---    21.9%     ---   
JASPER     ---    213     ---    13     ---    6.1%     ---    22.1%     ---   
CLAY     ---    84     ---    5     ---    6%     ---    59.5%     ---   
GRADY     ---    306     ---    18     ---    5.9%     ---    28.9%     ---   
WHITE     ---    326     ---    19     ---    5.8%     ---    2.3%     ---   
DODGE     ---    219     ---    11     ---    5%     ---    29.9%     ---   
MITCHELL     ---    357     ---    13     ---    3.6%     ---    47.9%     ---   
WHEELER     ---    31     ---    1     ---    3.2%     ---    38.3%     ---   
TAYLOR     ---    35     ---    1     ---    2.9%     ---    38.2%     ---   
BANKS     ---    110     ---    3     ---    2.7%     ---    2.8%     ---   
TELFAIR     ---    174     ---    4     ---    2.3%     ---    36.2%     ---   
SCREVEN     ---    141     ---    3     ---    2.1%     ---    42.2%     ---   
WEBSTER     ---    47     ---    1     ---    2.1%     ---    41.9%     ---   
FAYETTE     ---    1314     ---    26     ---    2%     ---    21.4%     ---   
HALL     ---    1426     ---    23     ---    1.6%     ---    8.1%     ---   
SUMTER     ---    646     ---    10     ---    1.5%     ---    52.5%     ---   
STEWART     ---    65     ---    1     ---    1.5%     ---    50.8%     ---   
MURRAY     ---    96     ---    1     ---    1%     ---    1.3%     ---   
TALBOT     ---    132     ---    1     ---    0.8%     ---    57.3%     ---   
ATKINSON     ---    6     ---         ---    0%     ---    17.9%     ---   
BURKE     ---    322     ---         ---    0%     ---    48.5%     ---   
CHATTAHOOCHEE     ---    8     ---         ---    0%     ---    18.5%     ---   
CLINCH     ---    86     ---    0     ---    0%     ---    27.7%     ---   
COFFEE     ---    217     ---         ---    0%     ---    28%     ---   
DOOLY     ---    45     ---         ---    0%     ---    49.9%     ---   
DOUGHERTY     ---    606     ---         ---    0%     ---    68%     ---   
HABERSHAM     ---    513     ---         ---    0%     ---    4%     ---   
LIBERTY     ---    704     ---         ---    0%     ---    40.9%     ---   
MILLER     ---    38     ---         ---    0%     ---    27.6%     ---   
MUSCOGEE     ---    3265     ---    0     ---    0%     ---    46%     ---   
PEACH     ---    136     ---         ---    0%     ---    45%     ---   
PICKENS     ---    28     ---         ---    0%     ---    1.4%     ---   
SEMINOLE     ---    119     ---         ---    0%     ---    33.3%     ---   
TREUTLEN     ---    39     ---         ---    0%     ---    32.7%     ---   
TURNER     ---    4     ---         ---    0%     ---    39.7%     ---   
WARE     ---    296     ---         ---    0%     ---    29.5%     ---   
WAYNE     ---    126     ---         ---    0%     ---    20.5%     ---   
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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2018, 03:21:24 PM »


Maybe some of our resident Georgia experts can help interpret this, and explain why this is the case? Why are the return rates significantly lower in the Atlanta area so far? Just an idea, but maybe the Abrams campaign has been focusing on turnout especially in the Atlanta area, and got more people who would not normally use absentee ballots to get ballots there as compared to in rural ares?
 

Come over to the Georgia thread in the Gubernatorial/Statewide board.  Griff does terrific analysis of the Georgia early vote.
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2018, 08:28:27 AM »

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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2018, 11:39:41 AM »

I voted today.
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