Specter expects primary challenge and raises a good point...

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Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.

Unless Obama wins and gives us the second term of Jimmy Carter he is promising and the GOP actually starts listening to its base, then Congressional Dems in both houses would have much to fear.

Then they can't actually label RINOS who they dupe in voting against their base to join with Democrats far right-wing and then run leftists who claim to be better moderates than their GOP opponents.

The GOP isn't having their problems because of "not listening to their base".   As the 06 results and exit polls showed, they didn't lose in 06 because of problems with their base.  They lost in 06 because they got their asses kicked among Independents and moderates.

As far as the landscape heading in 2010, after the results of this year the GOP is going to be in solid minority status in both the House and the Senate heading into the 2010 elections

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Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.

Unless Obama wins and gives us the second term of Jimmy Carter he is promising and the GOP actually starts listening to its base, then Congressional Dems in both houses would have much to fear.

Then they can't actually label RINOS who they dupe in voting against their base to join with Democrats far right-wing and then run leftists who claim to be better moderates than their GOP opponents.

The GOP isn't having their problems because of "not listening to their base".   As the 06 results and exit polls showed, they didn't lose in 06 because of problems with their base.  They lost in 06 because they got their asses kicked among Independents and moderates.

As far as the landscape heading in 2010, after the results of this year the GOP is going to be in solid minority status in both the House and the Senate heading into the 2010 elections

Yes that is what you everyone to think.  The GOP doesn't listen to tis base, a good portion of its base either doesn't vote, vote for third party or independent candidates or some case for DEMS, and independents end up having a choice between DEM and DEM lite and figure might as well go for the real thing.

Thats what the right wing in the GOP want you to think so they can take the party even further over the cliff, the 06 results don't back it up.  Republicans and conservatives made up a similar % of the electorate in 06 as they did in 04 and they voted GOP by about the same amount asthey did in 04, the difference was they got their asses kicked by moderates & Independents (lost by 20)

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Novak alluded to a possible Rendell run.  Could a 2010 Rendell/Specter duel mirror the 2000 Carper/Roth contest -- the younger Democratic Governor upsetting the five-term Republican Senator?

Well a Rendell win wouldn't be an upset.

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rendell has to be getting on up there in years.  didnt he first run for governor in 1986?

i like rendell, and would support him easily over specter.

but really, the democrats dont need a rendell to run to knock off specter.  santorum was beaten by a retard, so im thinking any decently popular county commisioner in pa has a shot against the aging and senile specter.

and yes, i would very much support toomey over specter.

Rendell is 64, as far as the dems defeating Specter goes, its possible, but the chance are much greater against Toomey.