Specter expects primary challenge and raises a good point...

[Conan]

Novak alluded to a possible Rendell run.  Could a 2010 Rendell/Specter duel mirror the 2000 Carper/Roth contest -- the younger Democratic Governor upsetting the five-term Republican Senator?

Well a Rendell win wouldn't be an upset.

Against Specter, yes, it would be.

Against Rendell, this race would immediately become a toss-up if not a lean democrat. I don't know what your definition of an upset is, but mine would be someone winning who was thought to have no chance. Certainly wouldn't be the case for Rendell or Schwartz.

[Conan]

Novak alluded to a possible Rendell run.  Could a 2010 Rendell/Specter duel mirror the 2000 Carper/Roth contest -- the younger Democratic Governor upsetting the five-term Republican Senator?

Well a Rendell win wouldn't be an upset.

Against Specter, yes, it would be.

Against Rendell, this race would immediately become a toss-up if not a lean democrat. I don't know what your definition of an upset is, but mine would be someone winning who was thought to have no chance. Certainly wouldn't be the case for Rendell or Schwartz.

Rendell (or Schwartz) would still have to beat a very tough incumbent. Schwartz winning would definitley be an upset. Rendell vs. Specter might be a toss up but, if anything, Rendell would be the underdog.

Step into reality. I agree, Specter is tough, but neither of those would be upsets.  Rendell would start out with 50/50 chance or better, while Schwartz would be something like 40-45/60-55 chance. Essentially, a win in a democratic state wouldn't be much of an upset.

[Conan]

Step into reality. I agree, Specter is tough, but neither of those would be upsets.  Rendell would start out with 50/50 chance or better, while Schwartz would be something like 40-45/60-55 chance. Essentially, a win in a democratic state wouldn't be much of an upset.

Oh, the simplistic minds. Carry on, little boy.

You don't know how old I am, besides aren't you like 19 or 20?

Ok, when was the last time Republicans won PA in a pres election?
20 years ago.
How many statewide offices do republicans hold in state government?
1, AG
The GOP also holds one of the branches of the legislature, although Dems barely hold the Assembly.

The GOP holds 1 of the senate seats and 8 of 19 House seats.

In sum:
Dems hold Gov, LGov, Treas, Audit, 1 Senator = 5 of 7 statewide offices
Dems hold 11 of the 19 House seats.
GOP hasn't won PA in pres election since 1988, or 2 decades ago. (although they can prob win it with McCain v Obama)
Welcome to reality, or are you just getting a bad education at your 4th rate college?

[Conan]

PA is a state, that at least in recent history, tends to lean slightly GOP at the state level and slightly Dem at the national level.  Saying anything more than that seems like a stretch.

That's never stopped people before!

Of course not, but it should be said. 

Yet that still says nothing to the argument that Rendell winning Specter's senate seat would be an "upset". It is ridiculous to suggest Rendell would be some sort of underdog winning out of the blue candidate.

[Conan]

Step into reality. I agree, Specter is tough, but neither of those would be upsets.  Rendell would start out with 50/50 chance or better, while Schwartz would be something like 40-45/60-55 chance. Essentially, a win in a democratic state wouldn't be much of an upset.

Oh, the simplistic minds. Carry on, little boy.

You don't know how old I am, besides aren't you like 19 or 20?

Ok, when was the last time Republicans won PA in a pres election?
20 years ago.
How many statewide offices do republicans hold in state government?
1, AG
The GOP also holds one of the branches of the legislature, although Dems barely hold the Assembly.

The GOP holds 1 of the senate seats and 8 of 19 House seats.

In sum:
Dems hold Gov, LGov, Treas, Audit, 1 Senator = 5 of 7 statewide offices
Dems hold 11 of the 19 House seats.
GOP hasn't won PA in pres election since 1988, or 2 decades ago. (although they can prob win it with McCain v Obama)
Welcome to reality, or are you just getting a bad education at your 4th rate college?

And let's go back to 2006 before the disastrous showing for the GOP:

The GOP had a comfortable hold on both houses of the State Legislature.
The GOP had twelve of the nineteen members of the Congressional delegation.
The GOP had both U.S. Senate seats.

Do you mean to tell me that the state was a GOP stronghold before the 2006 elections?

To use who holds the Governorship as a reason for a state being dominated by a party is laughable especially for PA, a state known for alternating which party holds the spot every eight years.

So, yeah, tell me again how we're such a strong Dem state.

Oh and by the way, to say that the university that I attend is "fourth rate" is the most hilarious part of your post.

If you care to refresh my memory as to where you attend, but I seem to recall you don't attend Upenn or Carnegie. I don't seem to recall any noteworthy schools.

Temple or Drexel? West Chester? All of those are at least 3rd rate.

[Conan]

If you care to refresh my memory as to where you attend, but I seem to recall you don't attend Upenn or Carnegie. I don't seem to recall any noteworthy schools.

Temple or Drexel? West Chester? All of those are at least 3rd rate.

So because I don't go to UPenn I'm not in a first rate school? Instead, I go to Temple and it's is third rate? You're a real dope.

<begins rant about Penn> If you graduated from Penn, congrats -- you went to the school for rejected/wait-listed Harvard wannabes.

Hey, hey...I have quite a few friends at Penn and they could have made it at Harvard (only one of them bothered to apply there though).  

Yet that still says nothing to the argument that Rendell winning Specter's senate seat would be an "upset". It is ridiculous to suggest Rendell would be some sort of underdog winning out of the blue candidate.

Specter is a stronger than usual Republican and the incumbent. Get it yet?

Specter is a strong incumbent, but to suggest a Rendell win to be an "upset" is completely absurd.

[Conan]

Specter is a strong incumbent, but to suggest a Rendell win to be an "upset" is completely absurd.

Listen, it wouldn't be a huge upset but it would still be an upset. We're not going to agree on this. Let's just leave it at that.

Ok. By the way, I was just attacking your school just for that sake. Take no offense, because it wouldn't have mattered where you went.