Progressive Caucus Convention

[Jake]

I'd like to join the Caucus

[Jake]

I'd like to join the Caucus

You might think its funny or "smart" to join the caucus for the sole purpose of skewing the votes, but I don't.

Um, I agree with most of your platform. Sections 1, 2, 3, 7, and 9.  Are you going to kick out all members who don't agree with all of it?

[Jake]

I'd like to join the Caucus

You might think its funny or "smart" to join the caucus for the sole purpose of skewing the votes, but I don't.

Um, I agree with most of your platform. Sections 1, 2, 3, 7, and 9.  Are you going to kick out all members who don't agree with all of it?

Actually I'm not bestowed with that authority; Technically there is nothing that I can do to stop you joining, though if I want to I can propose a vote to throw you out (I'm not thinking of doing it before you ask).

Its not exactly something one expects that Republicans start joining the caucus. If you are genuine, then I welcome you, but if this is just a joke then I urge you to please not waste my time and energy.

I'm also rather shocked at your supporting the death penalty plank when you strongly questioned my decision to commute the death penalty of a guy convicted when he was a kid.

I oppose the death penalty when it is not 100% sure that the crime was committed.  I can and will compromise if that is achieved and I promise not to impede or hold up anything. 

[Jake]

Responding the Akno's point on sex-ed, he is just showing again that he wants central control. Set basic guidelines, but don't force a curruculum on the local school boards.

Responding the Lewis's point on the death penalty. That is insane. The people caught in connection to the Madrid train bombings can only get 40 years in prison because of crazy anti-death penalty laws.

And to the pledge point, citizens don't have to pledge, it is voluntary and never has been mandatory.

[Jake]

Jake, if central control will prevent children in certain areas from being taught anti-homosexuality things, then so be it.

How will it result in that.  I live in a rural, conservative area, and we're not taught anything about homosexuality. We're told to make up our own minds and not be brainwashed either way. You're worried about students being brainwashed into hating gays, what about them being brainwashed into supporting gay rights. Who is to say what is right in that situation?

[Jake]

Responding the Akno's point on sex-ed, he is just showing again that he wants central control. Set basic guidelines, but don't force a curruculum on the local school boards.

Responding the Lewis's point on the death penalty. That is insane. The people caught in connection to the Madrid train bombings can only get 40 years in prison because of crazy anti-death penalty laws.

And to the pledge point, citizens don't have to pledge, it is voluntary and never has been mandatory.

In Arkansas, it IS mandatory to say the pledge in public schools, unless my teachers were lying to me.  And even if it wasn't, it's still a case of intolerance.  It's the same situation as school prayer; people don't HAVE to do it, but it is incredibly uncomfortable when everyone around you IS.  Upholding the separation of church and state in Atlasia is something that is imperative to me and progressives everywhere.

Maybe that's a state law, you do live in the bible belt.  In PA, you don't have to say the pledge.

[Jake]

Gay Marriage: Aye
Death Penalty: Aye
School Prayer: Nay
Sex Education and Contraception in Schools: Nay
Media Regulation: Nay
Taxation: Nay
Education: Aye
The Pledge of Allegiance: Nay
Environment: Nay
Pornography: Nay

President/VP: KEmperor/Alcon
District 1: ColinW
District 2: MAS117
District 3: Naso
District 4: Sam Spade
District 5: King