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« on: October 23, 2011, 07:35:03 PM »

I don't even understand the logic in this. Federal loans aren't perfect, but they at least give an opportunity for everyone to go to college even if they have debt afterwords. Ideally state universities should be free like most countries in the world, but obviously too many Americans would rather maintain an inequality gap in universities that contribute some more in taxes every year to help better education. Getting rid of student loans helps education how exactly? States should be expected to allocate adequate funding for students? Do you think a place like California or Texas should be trusted with that responsibility when their state governments are dominated by batsh*t crazies? No wonder Paul is dropping in the polls with ideas like that. It's one thing to be opposed to the Department of Education, but forcing students to go cold turkey without college loans is dangerous and cruel.
do you know what "phase out" means?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 07:49:31 PM »

I don't even understand the logic in this. Federal loans aren't perfect, but they at least give an opportunity for everyone to go to college even if they have debt afterwords. Ideally state universities should be free like most countries in the world, but obviously too many Americans would rather maintain an inequality gap in universities that contribute some more in taxes every year to help better education. Getting rid of student loans helps education how exactly? States should be expected to allocate adequate funding for students? Do you think a place like California or Texas should be trusted with that responsibility when their state governments are dominated by batsh*t crazies? No wonder Paul is dropping in the polls with ideas like that. It's one thing to be opposed to the Department of Education, but forcing students to go cold turkey without college loans is dangerous and cruel.
do you know what "phase out" means?

Sorry... but if that's the only issue you have with what RC wrote... then the point is made.
No, it's the issue most relevant to the question that I could see there.  Whether the loans come from federal or state government doesn't matter. Either way you're inflating the price.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 08:04:27 PM »

I don't even understand the logic in this. Federal loans aren't perfect, but they at least give an opportunity for everyone to go to college even if they have debt afterwords. Ideally state universities should be free like most countries in the world, but obviously too many Americans would rather maintain an inequality gap in universities that contribute some more in taxes every year to help better education. Getting rid of student loans helps education how exactly? States should be expected to allocate adequate funding for students? Do you think a place like California or Texas should be trusted with that responsibility when their state governments are dominated by batsh*t crazies? No wonder Paul is dropping in the polls with ideas like that. It's one thing to be opposed to the Department of Education, but forcing students to go cold turkey without college loans is dangerous and cruel.
do you know what "phase out" means?

Sorry... but if that's the only issue you have with what RC wrote... then the point is made.
No, it's the issue most relevant to the question that I could see there.  Whether the loans come from federal or state government doesn't matter. Either way you're inflating the price.

Because you think than all states will match dollar to dollar the amounts which were loaned by federal government?
No, I wouldn't assume that, since they have to balance their budgets on a shorter schedule than the feds do. But if they did somehow manage to, it wouldn't solve the price inflation problem, so the whole feds v. states angle is a distraction.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 10:13:59 PM »

Sanchez wasn't making the cost distortion argument, and no one else was saying "let the states do it."

An inductive inference isn't a sure thing, but it's more than just an assumption.
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