French National Assembly Elections, 06/30-07/07

[jaichind]

EUR rises on likely hung France Assembly

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

What exactly would the consequences be of an RN majority as opposed to a hung parliament? Could they actually force legislation through Macron's opposition or would it be a purely symbolic victory for LePen?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Happens quite often in Bretagne only, I think.

Bretagne is Brittany in English, and has its own name in almost every European language due to a long history separate from France. Bretanha in Portuguese, and so on.

Bretagne is the correct name, i mean i don't know why you criticize him? We say Bretagne in dutch too. Brittany sounds goofy, reminds me of Britney Spears.

There's no single correct name. These sorts of games are silly, from either direction.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

This wasn't the case even before Bardella and Le Pen, right-wing populism does not a "socialist economic policy" make in any way, and it particularly isn't true after Bardella essentially made concessions to the business lobby that he was lying about undoing Macron's economic reforms any way, as fascists are want to do. Don't worry, you'll get what you want.

Like I said, unsurprising. A tale as told as time even.

[Epaminondas]

Happens quite often in Bretagne only, I think.

Bretagne is Brittany in English, and has its own name in almost every European language due to a long history separate from France. Bretanha in Portuguese, and so on.

Bretagne is the correct name, i mean i don't know why you criticize him? We say Bretagne in dutch too. Brittany sounds goofy, reminds me of Britney Spears.

Should we say you're from Belgique then? Just plain weird to be contrarian on such an open and shut case. It's Brittany in English, now do as you wish.

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

[Hindsight was 2020]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

So you just hate Muslims? Honestly makes sense

[OSR stands with Israel]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

I am not gonna respond why because I don't want to be infracted. That's all I will say

[Oryxslayer]

What exactly would the consequences be of an RN majority as opposed to a hung parliament? Could they actually force legislation through Macron's opposition or would it be a purely symbolic victory for LePen?

The difference is actually fairly significant, because of how the system default favors the president, and how there has never been a truly hung legislature since De Gaulle changed the constitution. A majority would de facto mean that alliance takes over domestic policy, since they can mostly override (or fall in line in ENS was the majority party) Macron. A truly hung legislature is unknown territory, though again, it defaults to the presidents party. There's this weird thing where investiture is assumed, and the Assembly must vote down the PM's candidate in a confidence vote to put up their own - both steps are not easy in a hung situation.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

So you just hate Muslims? Honestly makes sense

No , I hate the ones who celebrate Hamas and October 7th and Europe has proven to have a lot of those immigrants now.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

I am not gonna respond why because I don't want to be infracted. That's all I will say

I would love to know why. Don’t be a coward.

[BigSkyBob]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

Does he "understand [particularly international] politics very well" is one question.

Does he understand what his political interests are in another question.

He seems to articulate that he opposes socialism and mass immigration.

Between two parties where one opposes all of his interests, and the other supports some of his interests, the rational choice seems clear.

What is your real point?

[S019]

Disappointing result tonight all around. Hopefully the sane elements of both the left and the right come together in the second round to block both Bardella and Melenchon from power.

[Battista Minola 1616]

I guess it's enlightening to see OSR come here and post what can only be described as a series of disturbing non-sequiturs, but I would like that not to clog a thread that is supposed to be about discussion of the National Assembly elections and their results.

[Oryxslayer]

While the RN/LR alliance has been eliminated from a handful of seats due to an NFP candidate obtaining enough of the vote to preclude a runoff, it appears we have the first runoff in metropolitan France where the RN/LR alliance will not be on the ballot: Indre-et-Loire 01. The National Rally's Lisa Garbay came in third with 19% of the vote, but failed to meet the 12.5% registered voters threshold by 0.19%.

https://www.resultats-elections.interieur.gouv.fr/legislatives2024/ensemble_geographique/24/37/3701/index.html

Also Bas-Rhein 1 in Strasburg. Seat contains a good number of the EU buildings, so not that surprising it's one of the few mainland places without a RN presence.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Happens quite often in Bretagne only, I think.

Bretagne is Brittany in English, and has its own name in almost every European language due to a long history separate from France. Bretanha in Portuguese, and so on.

Bretagne is the correct name, i mean i don't know why you criticize him? We say Bretagne in dutch too. Brittany sounds goofy, reminds me of Britney Spears.

Should we say you're from Belgique then? Just plain weird to be contrarian on such an open and shut case. It's Brittany in English, now do as you wish.

I know it's Brittany in english but I don't understand why Red Velvet was attacked over it.

[Battista Minola 1616]

While the RN/LR alliance has been eliminated from a handful of seats due to an NFP candidate obtaining enough of the vote to preclude a runoff, it appears we have the first runoff in metropolitan France where the RN/LR alliance will not be on the ballot: Indre-et-Loire 01. The National Rally's Lisa Garbay came in third with 19% of the vote, but failed to meet the 12.5% registered voters threshold by 0.19%.

https://www.resultats-elections.interieur.gouv.fr/legislatives2024/ensemble_geographique/24/37/3701/index.html

Also Bas-Rhein 1 in Strasburg. Seat contains a good number of the EU buildings, so not that surprising it's one of the few mainland places without a RN presence.

Also Rhône's 2nd in Lyon (NFP candidate missed the 50% threshold by a hair) and of course loads of constituencies in IdF, where RN keeps being very weak.

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

Does he "understand [particularly international] politics very well" is one question.

Does he understand what his political interests are in another question.

He seems to articulate that he opposes socialism and mass immigration.

Between two parties where one opposes all of his interests, and the other supports some of his interests, the rational choice seems clear.

What is your real point?

You can't be serious, right? Dude is calling for mass deportations (a borderline genocidal idea given Europe's history) of Muslims in a country he doesn't even live in because of "Hindu self preservation" whatever that means.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I love how every time the far-right is ahead in a European election you always have the same handful of American cryptofascist creeps who never otherwise engage in European politics suddenly crawl out of their holes to spout off their rehashed talking points with no relation to the actual issues of the campaign. The audacity of acting like you have anything of any import or meaning to add to the conversation is truly something to behold. This is all the engagement you'll get out of me, though, because I'll be out there engaging in actual electoral analysis.

[Storr]

Speaking of immigration:

"Having qualified for the second round, Secretary of State for Citizenship Sabrina Agresti-Roubache withdraws to block the RN

In a Marseille constituency largely won over by the RN candidate, Monique Griseti (45%), the Secretary of State for Citizenship Sabrina Agresti-Roubache chose to withdraw, after qualifying in third place (23.1%) for the second round. She will support the diverse left-NFP candidate Pascaline Lécorché, who came second (28%)."

https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/live/2024/06/30/en-direct-resultats-legislatives-2024-la-gauche-appelle-ses-candidats-arrives-troisiemes-a-se-desister-pour-faire-battre-le-rn-le-camp-presidentiel-reste-flou_6245488_823448.html?#id-1645836

[PeteB]

So, with nearly 90% of the first round vote counted, RN has fallen to around 31%, the left is at 26.5% and Macron' centrists at around 20%.

There are 37 directly elected legislators for the RN, 9 for the left and 2 for Macron.