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Horus
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« on: June 20, 2024, 09:40:11 PM »
« edited: June 20, 2024, 09:45:01 PM by Horus »

Rare Trump W, but if you like this policy and want it enacted, you're better off voting for Biden and a Democratic Congress.

Absolutely not.
Trump will get this beautiful policy enacted and Biden will never be able to.


Would you have supported this (awful) policy before it got Trump's seal of approval?

I don't see how this helps him, most Americans supported his deportation plan. He had the opportunity to hammer Biden on borders. Why switch up now?
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2024, 09:49:21 PM »

Damn, immigration was like the one issue where I could say unequivocally that Trump was better than Biden. Not true anymore, and my already solid vote for sleepy Joe has just solidified even further. What the hell is Don thinking here? This really is a terrible soundbyte for him. Pro open borders Dems will never trust him and to his base this sounds like blasphemy. What is the the goal?
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Horus
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2024, 03:20:35 AM »

Its not a real proposal and will never happen.  Just Trump riffing.

What makes you so sure? The tech bros love this idea and Trump has been sucking up to them a lot lately. This is just the GOP returning to its anti populist norm.
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Horus
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2024, 10:04:47 AM »

Its not a real proposal and will never happen.  Just Trump riffing.

If Biden had made this comment, you be raving about Democrats were selling America to foreigners. Be more consistent.

I’m always consistent.  Spend less time trying to read minds.

You're really not though. Trump has clearly turned far more establishment since all the legal troubles, why are you so sure he's lying here? Are you really that negatively polarized?
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Horus
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2024, 10:37:40 AM »

Its not a real proposal and will never happen.  Just Trump riffing.

If Biden had made this comment, you be raving about Democrats were selling America to foreigners. Be more consistent.

I’m always consistent.  Spend less time trying to read minds.

You're really not though. Trump has clearly turned far more establishment since all the legal troubles, why are you so sure he's lying here? Are you really that negatively polarized?

He's just lying.  He's been lying for 8 years and telling people whatever they want to hear.  He hasn't all of a sudden become establishment.  He has no ideology.

If Trump wins, what do you think is more likely to happen in 2025, millions of deportations or a green card on every undocumented diploma? If he has no ideology why are you so sure he'll be a border hawk?

Going soft on the border or openly turning on Israel are the only two issues that I think could truly hurt Trump with his base, albeit each would take out a very different segment.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2024, 01:11:24 PM »

Horus pretending to be an immigration hardliner then voting Democrat every single time is one of the funnier Atlas subplots.

I'm an Obama style moderate on borders. And I care about universal healthcare and other domestic matters more. If Democrats go full on Gottheimer maybe I'll turn into a swing voter, but I doubt that happens. There's more to life than immigration.
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