French National Assembly Elections, 06/30-07/07

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Les Republicans just announced they would accept a coalition deal with RN

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1800485883398992317

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I get that in any event he would not be appealing to me personally, but is the French left caught in a spiral in which they have to suck it up and stomach the man, or are there redeemable features? Or is it just Le Pen making Melenchon look acceptable to some by virtue of comparison?

Le Pen wants to solve problems by letting people die or suffer. Mélenchon believes in positive ideals of democracy and egalitarianism. There's a reason young people and Muslims vote for him rather than the PS, and it's not his youth.
If you don't see the difference, you've been had by the both-sideism zeitgeist.

The Russia stuff is a throwaway plank of his platform - he has little interest in foreign affairs (not sure he even speaks English), he just reflexively cannot abide the US dictating French politics.

Le Pen is obviously better than Melenchon and it’s actually quite insane to consider this RN as similar her father’s RN .

Hopefully Macron chooses to work with Le Pen over Melanchon because Macron’s economic policies + a good deal of Le Pen’s immigration ones is exactly what France needs right now

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I get that in any event he would not be appealing to me personally, but is the French left caught in a spiral in which they have to suck it up and stomach the man, or are there redeemable features? Or is it just Le Pen making Melenchon look acceptable to some by virtue of comparison?

Le Pen wants to solve problems by letting people die or suffer. Mélenchon believes in positive ideals of democracy and egalitarianism. There's a reason young people and Muslims vote for him rather than the PS, and it's not his youth.
If you don't see the difference, you've been had by the both-sideism zeitgeist.

The Russia stuff is a throwaway plank of his platform - he has little interest in foreign affairs (not sure he even speaks English), he just reflexively cannot abide the US dictating French politics.

Le Pen is obviously better than Melenchon and it’s actually quite insane to consider this RN as similar her father’s RN .

Hopefully Macron chooses to work with Le Pen over Melanchon because Macron’s economic policies + a good deal of Le Pen’s immigration ones is exactly what France needs right now

Macron's anti-worker policies are a big reason why he's so unpopular right now.

France actually needs to increase their retirement age to like 65(which would still be more liberal than our one), increase the work week to 40 hours, and reform the labor markets.

In fact I would say what I think France needs with the coalition I proposed is basically a Thatcher of France

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Not trying to defend Macron here (I'd vote for the Popular Front unless my constituency's candidate was from LFI) but it seems that the Macronistas are the only coalition that hasn't had some form of significant chaos.

Anyone with more knowledge of French politics know any more about the RE campaign?

How do you have an L avatar and somehow prefer both Le Pen and NFP within the last week over Macronism?

At the end of the day the vast majority people will put their personal interests over ideology . You could say that’s libertarian in a way

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Macron should stay out of the 2nd round . The RN is the lesser evil compared to the left

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Macron should stay out of the 2nd round . The RN is the lesser evil compared to the left

Push comes to shove you’d back fascist before the left

Le Pen kicked AFD out , and kicked her own father from the party

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Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

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Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

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Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

I am not gonna respond why because I don't want to be infracted. That's all I will say

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Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

So you just hate Muslims? Honestly makes sense

No , I hate the ones who celebrate Hamas and October 7th and Europe has proven to have a lot of those immigrants now.

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I love how every time the far-right is ahead in a European election you always have the same handful of American cryptofascist creeps who never otherwise engage in European politics suddenly crawl out of their holes to spout off their rehashed talking points with no relation to the actual issues of the campaign. The audacity of acting like you have anything of any import or meaning to add to the conversation is truly something to behold. This is all the engagement you'll get out of me, though, because I'll be out there engaging in actual electoral analysis.

Even Mongoose said he would support Le Pen if he was French, so its just not right wingers saying it. The fact is mass immigration in Europe has failed and the reason I brought up as a Hindu is due to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Leicester_unrest

And the reaction to 10/7 further terrifies me. Thankfully I don't live in France though

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...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

Your views are out of step with the vast majority of French people, if we go by the election results. Taking that into account, I would not be so bold to claim a monopoly on understanding French politics. And I was under the impression that running commentary and political opinions were perfectly adequate for this thread, considering how they are accepted when they are closer to the mainstream of posters on here.

I do get that this is not a thread to debate about this, so I will not respond further, but I do not appreciate calls for banning me and other for expressing a viewpoint simply because you disagree with it.

Guy who thinks people should vote for Nazis to stop "petty bourgeois insurrectionalists" wants to lecture others on their views, lol. Give us a break. Probably a wise choice you duck out of the thread.

RN aren’t Nazis . Unless of course you believe in the principles of “judge the kid for their father’s sins” . Not very liberal isn’t it

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...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

Your views are out of step with the vast majority of French people, if we go by the election results. Taking that into account, I would not be so bold to claim a monopoly on understanding French politics. And I was under the impression that running commentary and political opinions were perfectly adequate for this thread, considering how they are accepted when they are closer to the mainstream of posters on here.

I do get that this is not a thread to debate about this, so I will not respond further, but I do not appreciate calls for banning me and other for expressing a viewpoint simply because you disagree with it.

Guy who thinks people should vote for Nazis to stop "petty bourgeois insurrectionalists" wants to lecture others on their views, lol. Give us a break. Probably a wise choice you duck out of the thread.

RN aren’t Nazis . Unless of course you believe in the principles of “judge the kid for their father’s sins” . Not very liberal isn’t it

Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy.

We have had literally Jewish liberal posters on here say they would back Le Pen over Macron let alone the left  so maybe you should think to your self why that is

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...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

Your views are out of step with the vast majority of French people, if we go by the election results. Taking that into account, I would not be so bold to claim a monopoly on understanding French politics. And I was under the impression that running commentary and political opinions were perfectly adequate for this thread, considering how they are accepted when they are closer to the mainstream of posters on here.

I do get that this is not a thread to debate about this, so I will not respond further, but I do not appreciate calls for banning me and other for expressing a viewpoint simply because you disagree with it.

Guy who thinks people should vote for Nazis to stop "petty bourgeois insurrectionalists" wants to lecture others on their views, lol. Give us a break. Probably a wise choice you duck out of the thread.

RN aren’t Nazis . Unless of course you believe in the principles of “judge the kid for their father’s sins” . Not very liberal isn’t it

Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy.

We have had literally Jewish liberal posters on here say they would back Le Pen over Macron let alone the left  so maybe you should think to your self why that is

All of this should really stop, but I just want to point out that this is sort of a strange point to make when speaking to... a Jewish liberal poster.

He’s a progressive not a liberal . A corbynite by definition isn’t a liberal