Presidential debate megathread (debate 1: June 27, 9pm EDT, CNN)

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This would help Biden.
The landmine will be Israel, trought.

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Biden has the most gain and to lose from the debate. However it's a bit too early for it to make any lasting difference. At best he gets a small temporary spike like after the SOTU. I guess if he fumbles badly it could hurt him, but I don't expect that, in part because the "senile old fool" image is so baked in that it sets the bar incredibly low for a good performance to the general public. Like in 2000, all Bush had to do at the first debate was prove he had the most basic understanding of the issues at hand and he won, all Biden has to do is prove he can speak in complete sentences and he wins.

I don't know why the Republicans keep doing this. Any time Biden debates without sh**tting himself it seems like a good performance relative to expectations. We also saw this in 2020. Per every poll taken both debates were either plusses for Biden or neutral.

Obviously no candidate is going to compliment their opponent's debate skills, but maybe don't rave about how Biden is going to literally drop dead on stage so much. The bar is on the floor.

While I still think this is a mistake by Biden, if he can pull out a consistently modestly average performance, his campaign (and Democratic PACs) may very well end up with clips they can run from June to November of Biden speaking like a mentally competent adult while Trump babbles, fumbles and slurs incoherently on stage next to him. They can intercut it with short clips from Republicans and prominent "conservatives" saying how important it is that the President isn't senile.

BidenHarrisHQ is already showing clips of Trump gaffes

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Memers and other people ready

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Let's hope #DarkBrandon prevails

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Pervitin vs Adderal !

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I saw a little of the debate.

Biden was doing fine until he refered 'a solitary man' and then some gibberish.

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Imagine...none of this would be happening were it not for Bernie Sanders supporters in 2016.

Imagine if she had put Brown as VP

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Biden shouldn´t had run this year.
His goverment has been OK, all things considered, but maybe it's time for something new.

I think Kamala is better than Newson overall.

But the swing voters are:
- Moderate suburbans
- Moderate unionized WWC
- Moderate zionists

Which potential dem could do better with them?

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I don´t think Harris is actually much popular with black voters.
Now, if dems somewhat put a white-latino ticket, that would hurt with some black voters, but help also a bit with latino voters.

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I don´t think Harris is actually much popular with black voters.
Now, if dems somewhat put a white-latino ticket, that would hurt with some black voters, but help also a bit with latino voters.

Is there any evidence whatsoever that this identity politics crap actually has any effect on black or latino voters? Ever since the Democrats went all in on White Fragility race-baiting crap they've been losing a lot of ground in some places and gradually treading water in others.

I find it impossible to believe that a Beshear / Gallego ticket or a Whitmer/Beshear ticket would lose ground among black voters purely because Kamala Harris wasn't there. I refuse to believe that.

The point is that a white-latino ticket would seem a bit idpol pandering...
Are there latinos in the "potential Biden replacament bench" people talk about?
Considerimg that and the supposed latino R trends, a white-latino ticket could be seen as idpol pandering, specially among partisian Trumpy Rs on media. More a latino-white ticket. That would hurt a bit.

A white-black ticket would be seen as expected. A white-white ticket would be critifcised by some of the activist wing, who either didn´t plan to vote or will line up agaisnt Trump in November.