SCOTUS: TRUMP IMMUNE FROM CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR OFFICIAL ACTS

[wbrocks67]

at the end of the day, outside of the ruling, the decisions that they came to make it clear that they drew this out as long as possible knowing this would make sure Trump would not have a trial before election day.

[AtorBoltox]

Evidently Scalia is not the biggest influence on the conservative judges, but rather Carl Schmitt

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/johnwdean/status/1807796806937375198?s=46

[BlueSwan]

https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/1807795299533877644

Probably but he could still be impeached for it though.

Impeachment is no longer possible in this political climate. Even less so now that Trump can just have his opponents assassinated.

[Red Velvet]

https://twitter.com/johnwdean/status/1807796806937375198?s=46

In the end this benefits every corrupt president in theory, but obviously gives more power to Trump who is openly willing to engage on criminal acts.

USA should rename itself to Trumpland now.

[Green Line]

https://twitter.com/johnwdean/status/1807796806937375198?s=46

Watergate wasn't a core constitutional act.

Stop lying.

[SteveRogers]

Everybody is talking “Seal Team Six” this and that.

The real takeaway here is that Biden and any future presidents should be able to make a quick buck on their way out of office by selling presidential pardons for $1 million a pop and enjoying absolute immunity for any bribery prosecution touching their core constitutional powers.

(Remember, it doesn’t even matter if a president’s official act plainly violates a “generally applicable law).”

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Whelp, I guess it's now up to an old man to decide if he wants to have SEAL Team Six assassinate all his political opponents.

[Ancestral Republican]

Sure makes the whining about the debate look pedestrian now.

I don't care if the president is old with a stutter. The GOP/Federalist Society Supreme Court is drunk on power and just voted to basically destroy any semblance of the rule of law in America.

It was always hilarious to hear that John Roberts wanted to uphold the credibility and legacy of SCOTUS during his tenure. That's over. He will be remembered forever as one of the most corrupt and partisan Chief Justices in American history - however long that may endure now.

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/1807795299533877644

Probably but he could still be impeached for it though.

Impeachment is no longer possible in this political climate. Even less so now that Trump can just have his opponents assassinated.

I don't think s/he can do that. There was misreporting there, including by me. And regardless of whether or not it's possible now, this is a "rule for the ages" as Gorsuch put it.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/johnwdean/status/1807796806937375198?s=46

Watergate wasn't a core constitutional act.

Stop lying.

Under this court it would be, for a Republican at least.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

OK, now stuff like this makes me feel despair.

Trump was just given functional immunity by this stupid f**king Supreme Court. Unbelievable.

[7,052,770]

Dark day for America, but much darker days are on the horizon if we can't get our heads out of our asses.

[VBM]

Sure makes the whining about the debate look pedestrian now.

I don't care if the president is old with a stutter. The GOP/Federalist Society Supreme Court is drunk on power and just voted to basically destroy any semblance of the rule of law in America.

It was always hilarious to hear that John Roberts wanted to uphold the credibility and legacy of SCOTUS during his tenure. That's over. He will be remembered forever as one of the most corrupt and partisan Chief Justices in American history - however long that may endure now.

Unfortunately, the voters won’t care about this

[Ferguson97]

This is the most disillusioned about politics I have felt in a long, long time.

[Boobs]

Beyond just Trump, this ruling seems like it would make it impossible to prosecute someone like W. Bush for crimes committed with regards to the War on Terror, prosecute Clinton for say, perjury in relation to the Lewinsky scandal, etc. But obviously the worst part of this ruling is the crimes it’s going to induce by future administration thanks to its carte blanche approach.

[BlueSwan]

https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/1807795299533877644

Probably but he could still be impeached for it though.

Impeachment is no longer possible in this political climate. Even less so now that Trump can just have his opponents assassinated.

I don't think s/he can do that. There was misreporting there, including by me. And regardless of whether or not it's possible now, this is a "rule for the ages" as Gorsuch put it.

Sonio Sotomayer certainly thinks so:

"The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the
world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.

Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law."

[emailking]

Well it definitely means they can't prosecute Biden for anything related to the border like Trump keeps saying could happen to him.

[wbrocks67]

The Seal Team 6 stuff is obviously an exaggeration, but it's still the point that this still gives presidents a LOT of power to do what they want in certain situations, especially now knowing that they can do those things and in advance cook up how it relates to presidential power.

It sets the precedent now for someone to do something bad, but give them now advance warning to prepare for how they can describe it as "presidential power" to defend doing it

[BlueSwan]

I guess if this ruling had been in place, Trump could just have declared the 2020 election fraudulent and overturned it unilaterally. Or in Sotomayers words, used his "constitutional powers" as commander in chief to orchestrate a military coup to remain in power.

[BlueSwan]

The Seal Team 6 stuff is obviously an exaggeration, but it's still the point that this still gives presidents a LOT of power to do what they want in certain situations, especially now knowing that they can do those things and in advance cook up how it relates to presidential power.

It sets the precedent now for someone to do something bad, but give them now advance warning to prepare for how they can describe it as "presidential power" to defend doing it

I'm really not sure why it is an exaggeration. I don't think a supreme court justice would be using that example if she didn't believe this ruling to open up that possibility.

[Obama24]

Everybody is talking “Seal Team Six” this and that.

The real takeaway here is that Biden and any future presidents should be able to make a quick buck on their way out of office by selling presidential pardons for $1 million a pop and enjoying absolute immunity for any bribery prosecution touching their core constitutional powers.

(Remember, it doesn’t even matter if a president’s official act plainly violates a “generally applicable law).”

The real issue is the vast legal expansion of Presidential power given here, not just to Trump. It basically rubber stumps every previously illegal official act undertaken by a President - for instance, Nixon might be immune from prosecution for bombing Laos and Cambodia if this was law then. His impoundment of congressional funds would not have been illegal.

Really we are only a few steps short legally (even without Trump) from the Presidency being an elective monarchy, and have been trending that way for a few decades.

[RI]

Y'all are hysterically overreacting. This decision doesn't save Trump legally at all. Politically, perhaps, but not legally.

[Hindsight was 2020]

The Seal Team 6 stuff is obviously an exaggeration, but it's still the point that this still gives presidents a LOT of power to do what they want in certain situations, especially now knowing that they can do those things and in advance cook up how it relates to presidential power.

It sets the precedent now for someone to do something bad, but give them now advance warning to prepare for how they can describe it as "presidential power" to defend doing it

I'm really not sure why it is an exaggeration. I don't think a supreme court justice would be using that example if she didn't believe this ruling to open up that possibility.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Apparently we have six Von Papens on the Court