If Trump wins, what should be Democrats' midterm strategy?

[Tekken_Guy]

I agree with basically all of these points. I might also add fighting like hell to resist voter suppression, but that'll only work so far if Trump is President again.

Agreed. If Trump gets back into power, I worry if any future election cycle will truly be "free and fair" like in the past.

I believe elections will remain free and fair for the most part even if Trump wins since they're run by the states, not the federal government,

Also I doubt Trump would try to rig elections for Republicans who aren't himself, so I imagine if he wants to stay in power he'll save his energy for the actual presidential election.

[Tekken_Guy]

I agree with basically all of these points. I might also add fighting like hell to resist voter suppression, but that'll only work so far if Trump is President again.

Agreed. If Trump gets back into power, I worry if any future election cycle will truly be "free and fair" like in the past.

I believe elections will remain free and fair for the most part even if Trump wins since they're run by the states, not the federal government,

Also I doubt Trump would try to rig elections for Republicans who aren't himself, so I imagine if he wants to stay in power he'll save his energy for the actual presidential election.

which is equally bad!

How does the US prepare for a 2028 election where Trump wants to run again? Do people just continue to move the goalposts for him or accept that?

If he somehow runs and wins in 2028 and Dems control a branch of Congress, do they certify his win?

These are things we've never really had to worry about before Trump came on the scene, but now they are real possibilities. So, it's clear Trump has greatly harmed our democracy already.

If Trump tries to run again in 2028 I can't imagine him being allowed on the ballot.

[Tekken_Guy]

I agree with basically all of these points. I might also add fighting like hell to resist voter suppression, but that'll only work so far if Trump is President again.

Agreed. If Trump gets back into power, I worry if any future election cycle will truly be "free and fair" like in the past.

I believe elections will remain free and fair for the most part even if Trump wins since they're run by the states, not the federal government,

Also I doubt Trump would try to rig elections for Republicans who aren't himself, so I imagine if he wants to stay in power he'll save his energy for the actual presidential election.

which is equally bad!

How does the US prepare for a 2028 election where Trump wants to run again? Do people just continue to move the goalposts for him or accept that?

If he somehow runs and wins in 2028 and Dems control a branch of Congress, do they certify his win?

These are things we've never really had to worry about before Trump came on the scene, but now they are real possibilities. So, it's clear Trump has greatly harmed our democracy already.

If Trump tries to run again in 2028 I can't imagine him being allowed on the ballot.

What if he mounts a write in campaign that the RNC supports? Or what if he sues to be on the ballot and SCOTUS rules in his favor?

SCOTUS is unlikely to rule in his favor outside of Alito and Thomas (or any replacements like them).

And he'd get absolutely obliterated in an election as a write-in.

[Tekken_Guy]

I agree with basically all of these points. I might also add fighting like hell to resist voter suppression, but that'll only work so far if Trump is President again.

Agreed. If Trump gets back into power, I worry if any future election cycle will truly be "free and fair" like in the past.

I believe elections will remain free and fair for the most part even if Trump wins since they're run by the states, not the federal government,

Also I doubt Trump would try to rig elections for Republicans who aren't himself, so I imagine if he wants to stay in power he'll save his energy for the actual presidential election.

which is equally bad!

How does the US prepare for a 2028 election where Trump wants to run again? Do people just continue to move the goalposts for him or accept that?

If he somehow runs and wins in 2028 and Dems control a branch of Congress, do they certify his win?

These are things we've never really had to worry about before Trump came on the scene, but now they are real possibilities. So, it's clear Trump has greatly harmed our democracy already.

If Trump tries to run again in 2028 I can't imagine him being allowed on the ballot.

What if he mounts a write in campaign that the RNC supports? Or what if he sues to be on the ballot and SCOTUS rules in his favor?

SCOTUS is unlikely to rule in his favor outside of Alito and Thomas (or any replacements like them).

And he'd get absolutely obliterated in an election as a write-in.

Why? People thought he had no chance after losing in 2020 and Jan 6, but he now has more control over the Republican Party than ever.

Who's to say he won't be able to get away with even more if given the chance?

He won't have the luxury of running against a deeply unpopular Biden, and he'll be the one blamed for everything that goes wrong in the country.

[Tekken_Guy]

I agree with basically all of these points. I might also add fighting like hell to resist voter suppression, but that'll only work so far if Trump is President again.

Agreed. If Trump gets back into power, I worry if any future election cycle will truly be "free and fair" like in the past.

I believe elections will remain free and fair for the most part even if Trump wins since they're run by the states, not the federal government,

Also I doubt Trump would try to rig elections for Republicans who aren't himself, so I imagine if he wants to stay in power he'll save his energy for the actual presidential election.

which is equally bad!

How does the US prepare for a 2028 election where Trump wants to run again? Do people just continue to move the goalposts for him or accept that?

If he somehow runs and wins in 2028 and Dems control a branch of Congress, do they certify his win?

These are things we've never really had to worry about before Trump came on the scene, but now they are real possibilities. So, it's clear Trump has greatly harmed our democracy already.

If Trump tries to run again in 2028 I can't imagine him being allowed on the ballot.

What if he mounts a write in campaign that the RNC supports? Or what if he sues to be on the ballot and SCOTUS rules in his favor?

SCOTUS is unlikely to rule in his favor outside of Alito and Thomas (or any replacements like them).

And he'd get absolutely obliterated in an election as a write-in.

Why? People thought he had no chance after losing in 2020 and Jan 6, but he now has more control over the Republican Party than ever.

Who's to say he won't be able to get away with even more if given the chance?

He won't have the luxury of running against a deeply unpopular Biden, and he'll be the one blamed for everything that goes wrong in the country.

I love your confidence in the belief that another Trump term won't further erode democracy, but the last decade of politics has proven you wrong.

I never said it wouldn't erode democracy further. It definitely will in some ways, such as the politicization of the federal bureaucracy or the weaponization of government agencies. But something like the federal takeover of election administration, or Trump finding a way to stay in power past 2029, isn't plausible.

I envision a second Trump term as a lot like Netanyahu's current stint, though hopefully without an October 7.

[Tekken_Guy]

2024 will be the last Election anyways where a Democratic Presidential Nominee can win with a WI, MI, PA Strategy.

By 2028 or 2032 it will be Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania = Republican, Republican, Republican.

Trump hasn't won in 2024 and I still think that he won't and we'll have Biden for 4 more years.

If Trump wins in 2024 Dems will easily win all 3 of those states in 2028.

[Tekken_Guy]

Put together a sound legal strategy and strong legal team to handle legal challenges over canceling elections and invalidating results. Secondly, get security for candidates because any candidate who is an electoral threat to a Republican candidate will be at risk of being harmed.

None of that is going to happen. Trump isn’t going to fight tooth and nail to overturn an election that he isn’t a candidate in.

[Tekken_Guy]

Put together a sound legal strategy and strong legal team to handle legal challenges over canceling elections and invalidating results. Secondly, get security for candidates because any candidate who is an electoral threat to a Republican candidate will be at risk of being harmed.

I agree. It could actually get this bad.

Stop overreacting. The GOP will not be able to cancel elections or invalidate results no matter how hard they tried, and the few places they could do that are in solid R states.

[Tekken_Guy]

Put together a sound legal strategy and strong legal team to handle legal challenges over canceling elections and invalidating results. Secondly, get security for candidates because any candidate who is an electoral threat to a Republican candidate will be at risk of being harmed.

None of that is going to happen. Trump isn’t going to fight tooth and nail to overturn an election that he isn’t a candidate in.

Some said he would not refuse to leave office in if he lost in 2020 but we see how that turned out. With that said he's not going to want a Democratic Congress because he wants the ability to do whatever he wants. Plus there are plenty of other Republicans who would want to tamper with elections so they don't really need his support to do attempt cancellations of and overturning of elections.

Republicans don’t have the power to cancel and overturn elections because they are run by the states, not the federal government. The only places they would be able to get away with it are in safe R states where they don’t need to rig elections in order to win.

[Tekken_Guy]

Put together a sound legal strategy and strong legal team to handle legal challenges over canceling elections and invalidating results. Secondly, get security for candidates because any candidate who is an electoral threat to a Republican candidate will be at risk of being harmed.

None of that is going to happen. Trump isn’t going to fight tooth and nail to overturn an election that he isn’t a candidate in.

Some said he would not refuse to leave office in if he lost in 2020 but we see how that turned out. With that said he's not going to want a Democratic Congress because he wants the ability to do whatever he wants. Plus there are plenty of other Republicans who would want to tamper with elections so they don't really need his support to do attempt cancellations of and overturning of elections.

Republicans don’t have the power to cancel and overturn elections because they are run by the states, not the federal government. The only places they would be able to get away with it are in safe R states where they don’t need to rig elections in order to win.

And what happens if they still hold control in states like Georgia?

Make no mistake, Trump will try to centralise control around him and will likely succeed because of a court system stacked with sycophants.

Georgia is mostly controlled by the likes of Kemp and Raffensperger who are establishment GOPers who aren’t going to bend to Trump’s will.

Trump’s own judges consistently ruled against him in his many 2020 lawsuits. People like Cannon are the exception rather than the rule. I think we’ll se a lot of his own judges rule against him a lot more frequently than you think.