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Question: Will Nevada's 6 Electoral Votes be the difference in who wins the election?
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Minnesota Mike
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« on: June 14, 2024, 06:25:14 PM »

Jon Ralston is fond of saying "we matter" in regards to Nevada but when it comes to the presidential election do they really? The most likely scenario where NV would matter is if Biden wins PA, MI and WI but loses NE-02 leaving the EC 269-269 but IMHO if Biden wins the great lakes three he is also likely wins NE-02. If Biden loses one of the big 3 then NV can't save him by itself. There are other less likely scenarios where Nevada matters but they are not likely IMO.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2024, 06:26:48 PM »

They’re a part of the puzzle but they aren’t the be all end all, Biden can win/lose without it
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2024, 06:27:46 PM »

Given how they count, I hope for the sake of the country it won’t.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2024, 06:28:25 PM »

Honestly, no.

It would still be nice to have for either candidate, sure, but it's just about the only battleground that can be carried and not necessarily indicate a victory in most scenarios. It's just too small.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2024, 06:30:41 PM »

No, it's lean R and is possibly Trumps most likely flip but only has 6 electoral votes. Not enough
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2024, 06:40:03 PM »

No. Whomever wins will probably already have 270 electoral votes before Nevada is called.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2024, 08:53:29 PM »

I doubt it'll be the tipping point state, although it's certainly a must-win for either candidate.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2024, 08:55:10 PM »

No, it's lean R and is possibly Trumps most likely flip but only has 6 electoral votes. Not enough

The polls Pred Laxalt to win it was a huge polling miss in 22.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2024, 08:55:51 PM »

Maybe
tHeRe iS a tHiGn cAlLeD Senate
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2024, 08:56:40 PM »

Maybe
tHeRe iS a tHiGn cAlLeD Senate

Well, yeah, for the House and Senate for sure. But this is the presidential election subforum.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2024, 09:33:32 PM »

Neither sufficient nor necessary but well appreciated
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2024, 09:40:41 PM »

I doubt it'll be the tipping point state, although it's certainly a must-win for either candidate.

No it isn't.

That said, it's pretty much irrelevant in reaching 270, in most scenarios, but it's relevant in terms of the Senate, potentially.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2024, 10:04:55 PM »

I doubt it'll be the tipping point state, although it's certainly a must-win for either candidate.

No it isn't.

That said, it's pretty much irrelevant in reaching 270, in most scenarios, but it's relevant in terms of the Senate, potentially.

Correct but just to be clear the question is about the presidency only.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2024, 11:15:14 PM »

Every part of the 276 freiwall is important. May olawakandi awaken the people and help them to see.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2024, 11:34:15 PM »

I doubt it'll be the tipping point state, although it's certainly a must-win for either candidate.

No it isn't.

That said, it's pretty much irrelevant in reaching 270, in most scenarios, but it's relevant in terms of the Senate, potentially.

Correct but just to be clear the question is about the presidency only.

And I answered the presidency part.  I can't provide further context?
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2024, 11:47:12 PM »

Potentially, sure:

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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2024, 11:51:44 PM »
« Edited: June 15, 2024, 12:50:15 AM by Joe Republic »

Given how they count, I hope for the sake of the country it won’t.

If the speed at which the primary votes this past Tuesday were any indication, those dark days may be behind us.

The rules were changed recently so that the SOS can start tabulating the thousands of early votes and mail-in ballots beginning at 8am on election day, rather than having to wait until the polls close.  And considering that 72% of voters are now mailing in their ballots, this change speeds things up immensely.
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2024, 12:03:09 PM »


Jon Ralston, as he demonstrated in 2016, does not matter.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2024, 12:11:10 PM »

Potentially, sure:



Biden is gonna win NV and MI
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2024, 03:00:55 PM »

Given how they count, I hope for the sake of the country it won’t.

If the speed at which the primary votes this past Tuesday were any indication, those dark days may be behind us.

The rules were changed recently so that the SOS can start tabulating the thousands of early votes and mail-in ballots beginning at 8am on election day, rather than having to wait until the polls close.  And considering that 72% of voters are now mailing in their ballots, this change speeds things up immensely.

Not if the race is close. Mail ballots that are postmarked by election day have a week to arrive and they can also be dropped off at ED vote centers, it still takes time to process them. The changes just speed up the process of releasing votes cast before election day. If a race is is within a couple points it will still take a few days to call.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2024, 03:11:58 PM »

I doubt it'll be the tipping point state, although it's certainly a must-win for either candidate.

I wouldn't say a must-win. Both Biden and Trump have various paths with or without Nevada to either victory or defeat.
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2024, 04:09:37 PM »

It will matter in the sense that the bigger Trump’s win margin, the better the chance of a mandate.

As for the election, no it won’t be the tipping state.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2024, 02:46:49 PM »

Given how they count, I hope for the sake of the country it won’t.

How long it takes on election night will actually be an indicator of who will win.

If it's taking a long time it's probably because Trump knows he will lose and is filing constant lawsuits to slow it down like he did last time.

If it moves along in a timely manner it probably means Trump is winning so he has no reason to sue and the Dems aren't either because they nominated an adult and not a toddler.
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2024, 02:48:26 PM »

Probably not. I think it votes to the right of all other swing states except maybe North Carolina. If Biden wins it he's winning the election easily, but Trump has paths without it.
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