Which election was the most stolen?

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

2020. Obviously.

Edit: Missed 2012 due to error - night shift, haven’t slept. Not like 2012 is debatable anyway.

[Yelnoc]

The one where the Supreme Court swooped in to Stop The Count, obviously.

[ugabug]

1876.

[Inmate Trump]

2020. Obviously.

Mods, obvious trolls should be banned from the forum.

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

2020. Obviously.

Mods, obvious trolls should be banned from the forum.

It’s a serious post. Don’t confuse trolling with being whimsical.

There’s a ton wrong with the 2020 election.

And 2000 is going to win, which is my second choice.

[Joe Biden 2024]

2020. Obviously.

So tell me, what was your role in stealing the election?

[BlueSwan]

2000 is the only one of those elections that could somewhat reasonably be described as "stolen" and even that is certainly disputable.

[Inmate Trump]

2020. Obviously.

Mods, obvious trolls should be banned from the forum.

It’s a serious post. Don’t confuse trolling with being whimsical.

There’s a ton wrong with the 2020 election.

And 2000 is going to win, which is my second choice.

It is trolling.

As you know, the 2020 election was not stolen and there is evidence supporting that. You people have had ample time and opportunity to present even a SHRED of credible evidence to show that it was stolen and your side has never once done it. So far, the only cases of confirmed fraud were perpetrated by Republicans.

So either show some evidence or you're trolling. That's not me saying that simply because I don't like you. If you keep resurrecting a dead horse to beat then you're a troll.

[Crumpets]

In the post-WWII era, 1960 and 2000 are the only ones you can really have a serious conversation about whether illegal or illegitimate actions changed the result of the election. 1972 obviously had some shenanigans, but you'd have to really make the case that Muskie was on track to be the Dem nominee, that Muskie would have been more competitive against Nixon, and that the ratf[inks]ing was singularly able to change that. Every election since 2000 has been pretty straightforward and extremely well-scrutinized.

[Senator Incitatus]

1960.

[Skill and Chance]

1876, although it would be more accurate to say it was stolen and then given back to the (likely) rightful winner, but at a truly terrible cost.

1960 and 1888 are legit suspicious, but at the end of the day, Kennedy still wins without Illinois and Harrison still wins without Indiana, respectively.  For some odd reason, there does seem to have been a surprisingly organized effort to suppress the fact that Nixon most likely won the 1960 PV.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

2000, the votes weren't counted

[Kabam]

2000 is the only debatable one. But Bush might have won Florida either way, we will never find out.

[bagelman]

2020 was the most blatant attempt at stealing an election, but it failed. So the obvious modern winner is 2k.

[TheElectoralBoobyPrize]

2020. Obviously.

Edit: Missed 2012 due to error - night shift, haven’t slept. Not like 2012 is debatable anyway.

But 2008 is?

[super6646]

1876, although it would be more accurate to say it was stolen and then given back to the (likely) rightful winner, but at a truly terrible cost.

1960 and 1888 are legit suspicious, but at the end of the day, Kennedy still wins without Illinois and Harrison still wins without Indiana, respectively.  For some odd reason, there does seem to have been a surprisingly organized effort to suppress the fact that Nixon most likely won the 1960 PV.

Wot? I’d like to hear more about this

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

For some odd reason, there does seem to have been a surprisingly organized effort to suppress the fact that Nixon most likely won the 1960 PV.

Tbh we should start pushing Nixon winning the PV in '60 just so Republicans will start supporting the abolition of the electoral college. Just because we've gotten screwed five times to their one (and 2-1 post-FDR) doesn't mean we haven't both gotten screwed!

[ottermax]

maybe 100 years from now people will reflect on 2000 and 2016 as stolen just as much as we consider 1876 stolen today given that the results did not reflect the popular vote resulting in two terrible presidencies that held back the United States significantly (costly wars, and a polarizing figure who dismantled trust in institutions).

Ultimately though the "theft" of an election is a little silly given that the presidency was never meant to be some sort of all-powerful executive. The constitution outlined the presidency as mostly a figurehead, largely insulated from the popular will. It has never been about what the "people" want.

And if we want to talk about election theft perhaps we should consider the many decades in which black citizens and native americans were banned from voting which most certainly would've changed many election results.

[Agonized-Statism]

How would one meaningfully quantify stolenness, it's either stolen or it's not

[OSR stands with Israel]

maybe 100 years from now people will reflect on 2000 and 2016 as stolen just as much as we consider 1876 stolen today given that the results did not reflect the popular vote resulting in two terrible presidencies that held back the United States significantly (costly wars, and a polarizing figure who dismantled trust in institutions).

Ultimately though the "theft" of an election is a little silly given that the presidency was never meant to be some sort of all-powerful executive. The constitution outlined the presidency as mostly a figurehead, largely insulated from the popular will. It has never been about what the "people" want.

And if we want to talk about election theft perhaps we should consider the many decades in which black citizens and native americans were banned from voting which most certainly would've changed many election results.

Saying 2016 was stolen is completely lol worthy and just as lol worthy as people who claim 2020 was stolen .

If misinformation makes an election stolen then all the emergency COVID voting laws made that election stolen. Of course neither meet the definition of stolen and it’s laughable to consider it so

[Schiff for Senate]

Yeah, the only one that can be characterized as such with any justification at all is 2000.

The liberals who cry about 2004 (not that there are many hear, but I remember reading about quite a few objections from House Democrats to the OH result) are absolute clowns. Bush won that fair and square. Of course, there's a good chance he wouldn't have been president in the first place and it'd be President Gore winning reelection if SCOTUS hadn't interfered to handpick their choice, but that's another story...

[JGibson]

2000 election easily.

[Skill and Chance]

maybe 100 years from now people will reflect on 2000 and 2016 as stolen just as much as we consider 1876 stolen today given that the results did not reflect the popular vote resulting in two terrible presidencies that held back the United States significantly (costly wars, and a polarizing figure who dismantled trust in institutions).

Ultimately though the "theft" of an election is a little silly given that the presidency was never meant to be some sort of all-powerful executive. The constitution outlined the presidency as mostly a figurehead, largely insulated from the popular will. It has never been about what the "people" want.

And if we want to talk about election theft perhaps we should consider the many decades in which black citizens and native americans were banned from voting which most certainly would've changed many election results.

Saying 2016 was stolen is completely lol worthy and just as lol worthy as people who claim 2020 was stolen .

If misinformation makes an election stolen then all the emergency COVID voting laws made that election stolen. Of course neither meet the definition of stolen and it’s laughable to consider it so

Yeah, unlike 2000 or 1876, 2016 is a stable Trump win independent of the size of the House or the influence of the Senator electors.  No one made Clinton campaign in California instead of Wisconsin.  Both candidates knew the rules of the game going in. 

[holtridge]

1876

[MarkD]

To those who are saying that 2000 was stolen, my answer is that Al Gore had a statutory right, under Florida law, to request a recount and to see the recount through to its completion; the SCOTUS stole that right from Gore, not the election itself. The "butterfly ballot" in Palm Beach County was another kind of issue.