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« on: February 04, 2024, 01:32:51 AM »

What's the shortest time span legally possible to hold a GE? Can it be scheduled within a month?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2024, 02:07:45 PM »

First poll to have the Tories below 20% since Truss I believe, and one of the few in the entire history of polling. Not the most reputable of pollsters but still quite amusing.


How does this translate to a seat count? Tories in low double digits?
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2024, 02:55:09 PM »

First poll to have the Tories below 20% since Truss I believe, and one of the few in the entire history of polling. Not the most reputable of pollsters but still quite amusing.


How does this translate to a seat count? Tories in low double digits?

24 seats according to Electoral Calculus, in practice lower due to tactical voting, maybe zero seats in England and Wales.

Maidenhead goes Labour (Theresa May retiring not a surprise).
Richmond goes Labour (Sunak's seat).


that's...cataclysmic. How will they even bounce from that? how will they elect a new leader given that the 1922 committee will be simply 5-6 Scottish MPs? Are they doing a Canada 1993 moment?
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2024, 11:21:57 AM »
« Edited: May 22, 2024, 11:29:19 AM by Hnv1 »

Sunak just listing all the things he utterly failed with as his accomplishments should be taught in marketing courses
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2024, 11:32:06 AM »

Are the Tories barred from changing leaders after the election is called?
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2024, 11:36:32 AM »

Are the Tories barred from changing leaders after the election is called?

No, but obviously the idea is insane.
Just seeing Sunak he might actually sink the boat deeper. Is there no one who can at least stablise the situation?
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2024, 02:10:32 AM »

Given the Tories will be reduced to some figure under 200 seats, with most being shire\rural seats, are there any thoughts on the next leader? The future MPs will likely favour the right wing of the party in that composition of the safest Tory seats with hardly any urban seats.

If the selection group is too slim and uninspiring will we see something surprising such as a tory from the lords or outside parliament try and win before getting elected to the commons?
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2024, 06:12:27 AM »

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The Conservatives say the scheme would involve 30,000 selective military placements where "the brightest and best" would get involved in cyber security, logistics, or civil response operations full-time for a year.

Everyone else would do 25 days, or one weekend a month for a year, with non-military organisations including the fire service, the police, the NHS or charities.

From a BBC article on this.

So it seems no one would actually be forced to do assault courses and get yelled at by a corporal, but I think that’s exactly the picture most people will have in mind when they skim the headlines about ‘national service’. Presumably the Tories would not be too unhappy to cultivate that impression in the minds of the voters this policy is clearly supposed to be aimed at, but I suspect that, for the most part, it will just work against them even more for all the reasons already discussed here as to why this is a laughable electoral ploy.
are they trying to get their numbers with the 18-24 age group to 0%?
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2024, 09:18:10 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2024, 04:58:54 AM »


This is a massive majority. How are they going to govern with 500 or so MPs? Will they seek some revolutionary policies or rather try to brand themselves as the new natural party of governance?
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2024, 04:57:43 AM »

As this abysmal campaign goes forward it becomes increasingly likely the Tories net less than 75 MPs. How will they function? who of that batch could be the next potential leader?

I am putting aside the question of how will they cope in doomsday scenario of less than 20 MPs as I think the 1922 committee will stop functioning
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2024, 02:17:24 AM »

How does this even work mechanically? Parliament has been dissolved. How can Charles make someone the new PM if Parliament is out of session?

I don’t see how he could unless he has the authority to call parliament back into session or delay the election.

Parliament is already dissolved so there isn’t a government for him to appoint a PM to.

For an immediate appointment, the Tories first need to amend their party leadership rules technically requiring candidates to be MPs, since that'd be a bit tricky right now as, like you point out, there aren't any MPs rn. Likewise, the mechanism for Charles constitutionally appointing a PM is whoever has the confidence of the House of Commons... but there's no Commons rn (& it can't be recalled because it doesn't presently exist), so practically, he'd recommend Cameron with the still-existent Cabinet's agreement to Charles, & Charles would appoint Cameron to preside over Cabinet through the election, since constitutionally, the British executive is technically government-by-Cabinet, rather than one headed by a PM.
That seems very stringent. What would happen if Sunak passed away tomorrow? surely cabinet will simply vote for someone as caretaker with the king's assent.

What would happen if a war or some catastrophe happened and the country needed emergency legislation after parliament dissolved? will they just use royal proclamations until a new parliament is convened?
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