Why was Liz Truss PM for such a short time?
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« on: June 28, 2024, 06:01:12 AM »

Why was she at 10 Downing Street for such a short time?
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2024, 06:15:39 AM »

because she sucked
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2024, 09:11:47 AM »



(This could fit literally any other post made by OP.)
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2024, 09:16:05 AM »

She did not understand the nature of her mandate (among many other things she does not understand). She quite effectively schmoozed her way into the higher echelons of the cabinet by becoming a vessel for various ultra libertarian thinktanks and affection for appearing as a Radical Doer (sometimes people defend her by saying that she is merely a poor communicator, when to me it seems like she cannot articulate the ideology because she doesn't fully understand why she has taken to it). This meant she had vague approval from factional players and the tory membership. But she took what was a very weak personal mandate (she said the most right wing things and also wasn't stained by the anti-BJ revolt, which damned sunak etc for the members) into an incredibly foolhardy budget which she pushed on a parliament and public that didn't want it, and which she had officially spurned all independent advice from. Even the threat of the mini-budget caused a crisis (and a narrowly avoided total collapse) which even a capable politician would have struggled to wade herself out of, and she mostly flailed and wandered in further, having to humiliatingly sack her chancellor, the intellectual force behind her (and a more substantial figure than her, even though he was just as incapable at politics). Essentially just weeks into her time in office, she had essentially given up her entire reason for her political career, like if Trump had declared open borders because the wall was complicated, or if jeremy corbyn decided to privatise the NHS to pay for war on china.

Even then she may have stumbled on, even in a rather humiliating fashion (Penny Mordaunt and Jeremy Hunt basically became mummy and daddy, treating the PM like a spoilt child who had thrown paint at the walls). But in her last week everything went off the rails completely: Suella Braverman, the leader of the ultra faction resigned from cabinet on dubious grounds, leaving Truss to the wolves, she was replaced by yet another of Truss's enemies Grant Shapps and finally an utterly farcical and entirely self-inflicted scene in parliament about a whipped (or maybe not) vote on fracking revealed that her MPs had no confidence in her and her government was incapable of quite basic acts of governance in a westminster system.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2024, 10:41:42 AM »

Shorter answer than above: she caused the Pound to crash with her budget that would have ballooned the deficit.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2024, 12:44:29 PM »

Interesting many people have claimed that the budget would have not have been a big deal if she had lead a economy like USA, the problem was that she like many British conservative fail to get that the British economy doesn’t work like the American one, USA can brute force itself through a lot of libertarian stupidities by the size of their economy and position of the dollars as the global reserve currency.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2024, 12:40:46 AM »

Because she represented the worst of American-style fiscal conservatism which isn't as popular on the other side of the pond.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2024, 02:28:11 AM »

Would the Tories have actually been any worse off with her?
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2024, 08:44:45 AM »

Would the Tories have actually been any worse off with her?

Her incompetence would have derail the economy to such a degree that the government had collapsed and there would have come a new election Starmer would won. So no they would have been far better off with her ending the party’s suffering faster without everyone being pulled through the muck, and it would have left the party in a better position to rebuild. At least with Liz Truss ending it faster, people could still claim that there was a few competent MPs left,
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