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« Reply #400 on: June 27, 2024, 02:31:34 PM »

Predictions for "flash polls" after the debate? I wonder what networks will even pay to have them done, I would assume that at least CNN will... maybe CBS.

Probably very similar to actual polls. I honestly doubt the debate swings much voters unless one candidate completely craters. Everyone will just claim their preferred candidate has won.
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« Reply #401 on: June 27, 2024, 02:32:55 PM »

Predictions for "flash polls" after the debate? I wonder what networks will even pay to have them done, I would assume that at least CNN will... maybe CBS.

Probably very similar to actual polls. I honestly doubt the debate swings much voters unless one candidate completely craters. Everyone will just claim their preferred candidate has won.

Not necessarily, the flash polls in both 2016 and 2020 were both decent leads for Hillary/Biden IIRC. The first one in 2020 was definitely a win for Biden, I think the second debate was still a Biden "win" but the margin wasn't nearly as big as the first one

Curious what the breakdown of viewers will be. Polls are suggesting Republicans will be watching moreso than Dems this year, which is a break from the past.
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« Reply #402 on: June 27, 2024, 02:37:39 PM »



This is an absolute disgrace. Elon Musk is 100% right on calling their bluff here, fair use must be invoked.

Broken clock moment from Musk if true. I just hope it will be available somewhere on YouTube tomorrow morning, as I can't watch live. Usually CNN themselves does not upload such events in full length.
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« Reply #403 on: June 27, 2024, 02:41:22 PM »

Navigator will also be doing a live dial survey

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« Reply #404 on: June 27, 2024, 02:47:17 PM »

Trump also appears to post some of his debate talking points on Truth Social??

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« Reply #405 on: June 27, 2024, 02:56:32 PM »



This is an absolute disgrace. Elon Musk is 100% right on calling their bluff here, fair use must be invoked.

Broken clock moment from Musk if true. I just hope it will be available somewhere on YouTube tomorrow morning, as I can't watch live. Usually CNN themselves does not upload such events in full length.
PBS will have a livestream https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-biden-and-trump-debate-pbs-news-simulcast-of-cnns-2024-presidential-debate
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« Reply #406 on: June 27, 2024, 03:03:21 PM »

I mean, CNN owns the debate. They're not going to give the rights to anyone they don't approve - because there are stipulations in place on agreement to simulcast ("The CNN Debate on...."), so I'm not surprised they're not just letting anyone who wants to simulcast it do so without proper approval
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« Reply #407 on: June 27, 2024, 03:11:51 PM »

Right wing media continues to oddly seem worried about this debate?

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« Reply #408 on: June 27, 2024, 03:15:43 PM »

17 Pages and the debate hasn’t even started yet?
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« Reply #409 on: June 27, 2024, 03:30:54 PM »

17 Pages and the debate hasn’t even started yet?

There's no dedicated thread for the debate tonight. It's a megathread for all debates that is over a month old.
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« Reply #410 on: June 27, 2024, 03:57:03 PM »

Are we doing a megathread?

Biden has arrived.

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« Reply #411 on: June 27, 2024, 04:17:08 PM »

Gutfield says Trump should spend as little time as possible on abortion and seek to "shape" his answers into statements about the past four years.
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« Reply #412 on: June 27, 2024, 04:25:04 PM »

Gutfield says Trump should spend as little time as possible on abortion and seek to "shape" his answers into statements about the past four years.

No offense but who the hell cares about what that clown thinks?
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« Reply #413 on: June 27, 2024, 04:26:12 PM »

Gutfield says Trump should spend as little time as possible on abortion and seek to "shape" his answers into statements about the past four years.

No offense but who the hell cares about what that clown thinks?

You calling him a clown is a compliment to him, actually.

He has spent all his life trying to be the right wing Jon Stewart.
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« Reply #414 on: June 27, 2024, 04:28:17 PM »

Gutfield says Trump should spend as little time as possible on abortion and seek to "shape" his answers into statements about the past four years.

No offense but who the hell cares about what that clown thinks?

You calling him a clown is a compliment to him, actually.

He has spent all his life trying to be the right wing Jon Stewart.

No, he gets better ratings.
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« Reply #415 on: June 27, 2024, 04:28:34 PM »

Gutfield says Trump should spend as little time as possible on abortion and seek to "shape" his answers into statements about the past four years.

No offense but who the hell cares about what that clown thinks?
YMMV. I just find Fox's coverage interesting. How is the establishment right media messaging things? Legitimate facets of this...
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« Reply #416 on: June 27, 2024, 04:30:17 PM »

Hopefully there's lots of drama.  I'm so excited.
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« Reply #417 on: June 27, 2024, 05:39:10 PM »

Which candidate has lower expectations? On one hand, Fox News has convinced most of the country that Biden is a doddering old fool suffering from late stage dementia, but on the other hand, Trump is Trump.
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« Reply #418 on: June 27, 2024, 05:49:21 PM »

Which candidate has lower expectations? On one hand, Fox News has convinced most of the country that Biden is a doddering old fool suffering from late stage dementia, but on the other hand, Trump is Trump.

I'd say Biden in terms of ability to string together cogent thoughts.  However, there are also low expectations for Trump's behavior.  That's why if Biden can be cogent and Trump can look civil and isn't wild like he was in debate #1 in 2020 that it can basically end up as a win-win for each candidate (or how they each can claim victory).
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« Reply #419 on: June 27, 2024, 05:53:26 PM »

Let me guess. "Trump sounded surprisingly presidential and mainstream" (the commentary every time he gets in front of a camera for an extended period of time, that isn't a rally).

Biden has his moments but otherwise an unexceptional performance.
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« Reply #420 on: June 27, 2024, 05:54:09 PM »



This is an absolute disgrace. Elon Musk is 100% right on calling their bluff here, fair use must be invoked.

Broken clock moment from Musk if true. I just hope it will be available somewhere on YouTube tomorrow morning, as I can't watch live. Usually CNN themselves does not upload such events in full length.

PBS will have a livestream https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-biden-and-trump-debate-pbs-news-simulcast-of-cnns-2024-presidential-debate

It seems that all the major channels are airing it.
CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, etc.
Doesn't seem CNN is trying to monopolize the airing of it. Though I'm not sure on who and how it can be re-aired for others to watch at a later date/time.
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« Reply #421 on: June 27, 2024, 06:05:56 PM »

I genuinely don't think I can watch, this whole election makes me feel nauseous tbh and the first debate makes it feel all a bit too real. =/
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« Reply #422 on: June 27, 2024, 06:06:32 PM »


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« Reply #423 on: June 27, 2024, 06:09:15 PM »

please Trump win the debate 🙏🙏🙏
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« Reply #424 on: June 27, 2024, 06:21:52 PM »

please Trump win the debate 🙏🙏🙏

You sound nervous.
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