United Kingdom General Election: July 4, 2024

[wbrocks67]

It's wild b/c the way that people treat the Conservative party and just continue to mock the hell out of them and their ridiculousness is the way you'd expect people here to treat the Republican party, but alas.

[wbrocks67]

I'll say it again - what I find so interesting about the UK elections this year is that Conservatives are rightfully being punished for things. Like, this is how things are supposed to work in politics - conservatives keep messing up, and voters are reacting to that rationally.

It's such a complete difference from the U.S.

[wbrocks67]

I'll say it again - what I find so interesting about the UK elections this year is that Conservatives are rightfully being punished for things. Like, this is how things are supposed to work in politics - conservatives keep messing up, and voters are reacting to that rationally.

It's such a complete difference from the U.S.

Would it be fair to say that in the UK, political parties are more like contractors who the voters hire and fire to do a job, while in the US they're more of a tribal affiliation (especially on the Republican side)?

100%. And I wonder why that it is. Even Conservatives in this era don't seem tied to any of their leaders. There's no cult like obsession with leaders, not with Sunak or Starmer or any of them. I guess in France, LePen is maybe someone who got close to Trump status but still, the U.S. seems much different than most of the world in that aspect. Not sure what makes us so much more tribalistic.

I go back to how Sunak has been embarrassed over and over by virtually everyone over there it seems. Meanwhile, you'd think Trump would be 10x more embarrassed by everyone over here but half the country believes he's God.

[wbrocks67]

I'll say it again - what I find so interesting about the UK elections this year is that Conservatives are rightfully being punished for things. Like, this is how things are supposed to work in politics - conservatives keep messing up, and voters are reacting to that rationally.

It's such a complete difference from the U.S.

The Tories have been in power for 14 years and are only now getting their comeuppance after bullsh*tting their way through three successive elections. If the GOP had managed that the US would be over as a country.

True true, I always forget it's been so long of dominance.

[wbrocks67]

I am curious for those that are in the UK/following this closely as well - is there the same type of issues over there in terms of 'ambivalence' from young voters? The same way here, far leftists and some young voters on social media try and say Biden/Trump are the same, "i'm not gonna vote for either one!!" etc etc. Are they also ambivalent about Labour and conservatives or is there less of that there?