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« on: December 11, 2016, 11:05:18 PM »

The first groups in Generation Z are going to be voting in 2020 or this election. Overall, they are born from around 1996-2000 to the present, more diverse, have had internet all their lives, and are way more conservative then Millenials. Will Generation Z go Republican in 2020?
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 11:13:50 PM »

A large part depends on how Trump does.

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 11:15:52 PM »

Generation Z are Nazi scum, as the article says, and as I said in the other thread.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016, 11:19:52 PM »

I was born in February '96.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Alt Right/Internet memes manage to tilt Generation Z to the right, but I wouldn't bet on it. Generation Z, at least in the United States, is very racially and ethnically diverse. I'd be interested to see if Generation Z whites become inspired by right wing populism though.

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016, 11:36:54 PM »

You realize that article is about an entirely different country, right?
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2016, 11:40:35 PM »

You realize that article is about an entirely different country, right?

Getting the country wrong?

I think the fact that it's from the DailyMail is the bigger issue.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 11:40:46 PM »

You realize that article is about an entirely different country, right?
Still relevant in the US, because the same trends in the US tend to apply to those in the UK.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016, 11:41:18 PM »

You realize that article is about an entirely different country, right?

You're right, it's probably a lot worse here.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016, 11:44:16 PM »

I cannot understand how anyone can deny that the incoming generation is xenophobic trash. Have they never visited say, any popular social media site? Not a single one?
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016, 11:46:27 PM »

I cannot understand how anyone can deny that the incoming generation is xenophobic trash. Have they never visited say, any popular social media site? Not a single one?

"Do u even anecdotal evidence, bro?"

Look, we have absolutely no way of knowing this. That said, stereotyping all young people as Nazis is one way to make that stereotype come true.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 11:47:04 PM »

Are we talking specifically about people born in the late 90s/early 00s? Even so, I think it's too soon to tell for sure.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2016, 11:47:53 PM »

I think Gen Z will end up being slightly more conservative than us Millennials, at least fiscally, but I'd see them as MUCH more socially liberal than us.

They're all being inspired by sh**tty memes and twerking videos on the internet at the moment. So I don't have hope for them.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016, 11:50:34 PM »

I think Gen Z will end up being slightly more conservative than us Millennials, at least fiscally, but I'd see them as MUCH more socially liberal than us.

They're all being inspired by sh**tty memes and twerking videos on the internet at the moment. So I don't have hope for them.

As opposed to those intellectual, high-brow memes that we were inspired by in 2010?
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2016, 11:55:14 PM »

I love how divisive this issue is.

Some people think they'll be radical Socialist SJW's and others think they'll be the next Hitler Youth.
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 12:31:49 AM »

Yeah. This, I assume, represents more of what Generation Z is like in the UK.

Here are the following characteristics of my generation (nothing much to do with politics):

-We will be the last White-majority generation (~55% White, 24% Hispanic, 14% Black, 4% Asian, and 4% Other)
-Drug use and teen pregnancies are at an all time low.
-Average attention span of 8 seconds (11% have ADHD).
-1/2 are expected to attend college.
-Less GenZ'ers are watching TV.
-Same-sex marriage is a less controversial issue among this group
-Generation Z is being likened to the "Silent Generation," born between the mid-1920s and early 1940s. Those Americans also came of age amidst war and economic depression. So, they too were sculpted into diligent and pragmatic careerists, primarily averse to taking idealistic risks.
-Millennials were raised by Baby Boomers, widely considered the most selfish generation in history. Generation Z, on the other hand, was raised by Generation X, a relatively small generation characterized by grunge music, slasher films, and the post-Vietnam disillusionment of the 1970s. Just like their children, the members of Generation X were largely jaded by political corruption, like the Watergate Scandal, and the limited horizons of the job market they were handed.
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One Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/meet-generation-z/

Here is info on Politics:
Source: http://genhq.wpengine.com/igen-gen-z-stance-on-politics-infographic/


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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 12:47:57 AM »

Yeah. This, I assume, represents more of what Generation Z is like in the UK.

Here are the following characteristics of my generation (nothing much to do with politics):

-We will be the last White-majority generation (~55% White, 24% Hispanic, 14% Black, 4% Asian, and 4% Other)
-Drug use and teen pregnancies are at an all time low.
-Average attention span of 8 seconds (11% have ADHD).
-1/2 are expected to attend college.
-Less GenZ'ers are watching TV.
-Same-sex marriage is a less controversial issue among this group
-Generation Z is being likened to the "Silent Generation," born between the mid-1920s and early 1940s. Those Americans also came of age amidst war and economic depression. So, they too were sculpted into diligent and pragmatic careerists, primarily averse to taking idealistic risks.
-Millennials were raised by Baby Boomers, widely considered the most selfish generation in history. Generation Z, on the other hand, was raised by Generation X, a relatively small generation characterized by grunge music, slasher films, and the post-Vietnam disillusionment of the 1970s. Just like their children, the members of Generation X were largely jaded by political corruption, like the Watergate Scandal, and the limited horizons of the job market they were handed.
-More Likely to save

One Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/meet-generation-z/

Here is info on Politics:
Source: http://genhq.wpengine.com/igen-gen-z-stance-on-politics-infographic/




It sounds like they have the potential to be quite conservative politically.

I think the fact that Trump managed to improve his numbers with Hispanics over Romney shows that there isn't a huge backlash to Trump's xenophobia even among much of the Hispanic communities.

I also thought the Asian percentage would be higher. Then again I'm in California so perhaps my worldview is warped.

I don't think the GOP is in crisis like everyone says they are with the youth. I think continued assimilation and intermarriage will cause Hispanics and asians to start self identifying as white. A majority of Hispanics already do according to the 2010 census.
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 02:54:49 AM »

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This is based on one exit poll that seems to be completely wrong.  If you look at the vote totals in states with large Hispanic populations there is no way that Trump did better than Romney with Hispanics overall.

Look at the vote shifts in Arizona, Texas and California.  Hillary Clinton doesn't seem to have increased the share of the Democratic vote much over 2012, but Trump dropped quite a bit compared to Romney.  So, the possible explanation is that a lot of Romney Hispanic voters voted for a third party candidate.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 03:11:47 AM »

From 538: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-probably-did-better-with-latino-voters-than-romney-did/

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She outperformed Obama in certain Latino counties, but underperformed in other Latino heavy counties. Also as another user named hopper noted in another thread, The Latino Decisions survey doesn't include data from latinos with non-Latino surnames. So Hispanic women who don't use their maiden name (if they married a non Hispanic person) weren't included in the survey. This demographic is much more likely to be conservative than Hispanics as a whole.

So maybe we'll never fully know if he did improve Romney's numbers with Hispanics, but it's overwhelmingly likely that the backlash Trump received from the Hispanic community as a whole was negligible at best.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2016, 07:03:09 AM »

Does the "Z" also imply that this will be the last generation full stop (sorry...period)?
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2016, 07:37:19 AM »

I can't find the study itself, but the British study seems to have a sample size of 2,000--including people of all ages (fourteen and above). So Generation Z (which they're defining as ages fourteen and fifteen) is a pretty small subsample of that--maybe 30 people or so. Point is, I wouldn't put too much stock into that study, at least as a way of providing meaningful information about Generation Z.
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2016, 08:19:18 AM »

Probably slightly more conservative than Millenials, but that may change depending on Trump.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2016, 08:20:30 AM »

Probably slightly more conservative than Millenials, but that may change depending on Trump.

Maybe regress to norm if he is succesful and maybe be at least as liberal as Millenials if not?
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2016, 08:22:34 AM »

If the hypothesis that older Millennials are "voting against Bush their whole lives" then that would apply to Generation Z as well if Trump is as disastrous as I expect him to be.
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2016, 09:23:27 AM »

In some ways, having the Alt-Right actually having to have their man govern the country, especially when he is so manifestly unqualified to do so, rather than allowing the movement to fester online for 4-8 more years, may have averted much worse consequences down the road.

It's funny and amusing to watch Trump troll the establishment. Having to actually run the country will be entirely different.
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2016, 03:32:38 PM »

In some ways, having the Alt-Right actually having to have their man govern the country, especially when he is so manifestly unqualified to do so, rather than allowing the movement to fester online for 4-8 more years, may have averted much worse consequences down the road.

It's funny and amusing to watch Trump troll the establishment. Having to actually run the country will be entirely different.

Not necessarily. Trump and his followers can just blame his shortcomings and a lack of economic improvement on the "others" now that they're in power. The alt right will now feel emboldened to primary moderate GOP leaders with their own mini Trump candidates.

I'm willing to bet that a lot of these Alt right supporters are teenagers and young white kids in middle class households. I doubt that they'll care much if Trump is incompetent, so long as he continues to provide dank meme material for them to work with.
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